Legal action against Eventbrite for unlawful discrimination

They can only be a transman if they are a woman or they would be a man

I find it astonishing that a poster here has not heard of trans men. If you have, you are suggesting that trans men are insane, which is transphobic as hell.

That's a good point.

I wonder if they are trying to establish evidence of a "policy" and a "community standard" after the event.

Yes. Let's hope they're wrong.

And in any event, sunlight needs to be shone on this. If out-of-towners can get away with fucking around with our laws, then we all need to know about it.

Excellent. Whatever differences she might have, perhaps she will set them aside for this.

I was thinking the same, they must be feeling confident in their position legally to have cancelled this event as well.

@Spero

Are you friends with Julie Bindel? Is this something you could, or would, join forces over?

Crikey they if they are continuing to discriminate against feminists it doesn't look good for your review does it? It'll be class action by the time they've finished!

This, in spades.

Bloody hell. This is a fight we can't ignore.

HOW DARE THEY

People who are a danger to other inmates should be treated accordingly, but not filtered based on their gender identity. If you were truly worried about the danger to women from men in prisons you'd be advocating for the removal of male staff, and the separation of all dangerous inmates, but your entire focus is on trans women. The idea that you object to them because "they are men" is disingenuous.

As most dangerous prisoners are male , there is nothing disingenuous about objecting to male prisoners being placed in female prisons and as transwomen are all male , they have no place in female prisons. The only person on this board who is not concerned about women's safety is you DadJoke.

Blimey! Well they've definitely picked on the wrong women. I echo Datun in hoping you both take them to the cleaners.

Even more reason to take legal action, now!

Bloody hell. I hope the pair of you take them to the bloody cleaners.

If you were truly worried about the danger to women from men in prisons you'd be advocating for the removal of male staff, and the separation of all dangerous inmates, but your entire focus is on trans women.

You're hardly being honest if you think that a) women aren't arguing for the separation of dangerous inmates and b) that there is no difference between a prisoner with a criminal history being locked up with women and a male member of staff being employed to work there. Besides, many people are advocating for female-only staff to carry out some duties.

People who are a danger to other inmates should be treated accordingly, but not filtered based on their gender identity.

Again - you are being dishonest if you say that people here are suggesting 'gender identity' is a category that should be used for anything. You know full well it isn't, because you have been told repeatedly. It seems you only post when you mis-state what we say, because you can't answer otherwise. I don't actually mind this, because it becomes obvious to lurkers that this is all you have.

It is someone's sex, not their gender, gender identity, gender reassignment, level of cultural femininity or masculinity, dress, appearance, surgery, etc that should determine which sex-segregated spaces they should go in. This seems to be a very tricky concept for many to grasp.

As @DadJoke doesn't seem to know the answer to this, they are hardly in a position to comment on who does and doesn't fall under the trans umbrella for determining what 'misgendering' is.

Not all people who are pregnant are women.

Yes they are. You are insane.

And just to highlight (from the first link I gave), a response from SPS regarding the review regarding their self ID policy (for which they were advised by the Scottish Trans Alliance) -

'The SPS spokesman told The Times that “one of the groups we will be particularly keen to consult is the female prison population, who have not been specifically consulted about this before.”

@DadJoke at least you have an apt name. You’re funny. I do like it when you come and try to mansplain to us poor likkle wimmens and our pink fluffy lady brains. You can believe in your gender religion shtick all you like. That’s your right. It’s our right not to. You may want men in womens prisons. I can guess why. Women don’t. Why do you believe the rights of men who have a trans identity who wishes to to have that identity validated should trump those of a woman who wishes to have access to single sex spaces?

I wonder why we are concerned about males (particularly male sex offenders) in the female prison estate....

It might be because convicted sex offenders are being placed in the female prison estate in Scotland -
www.nationalreview.com/news/transgender-sex-offenders-placed-in-womens-jails-in-scotland/

It might be because of criminals suddenly deciding that they are trans only after their conviction -
archive.ph/2022.10.04-232359/www.thetimes.co.uk/article/half-of-scottish-trans-prisoners-changed-gender-after-convictions-pftqbbhg6

It might be because, unsurprisingly, many of these criminals revert to their original gender upon release -
www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/anger-trans-inmates-revert-males-25840252 (this is also in The Times but I don't have a share token).

And the self id of the SPS allows for all this.

But DadJoke knows all this. So I post these links for the benefit of lurkers.

People who are a danger to other inmates should be treated accordingly, but not filtered based on their gender identity.

Gender identity doesn't exist so you mean 'sex' right? We don't have prisons for people in pink prison outfits and another prison for those in blue do we?