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Queens for the Night

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LisaPandervump · 05/11/2022 18:36

A show on ITV at 8pm tonight that sees male celebrities dressing in drag to be judged by a panel. Hosted by Lorraine Kelly.

More normalising womanface and misogyny on prime time tv for ‘family’ entertainment.

OP posts:
MangyInseam · 05/11/2022 20:16

JacquelinePot · 05/11/2022 18:42

Meanwhile elsewhere on mn a thread has been running all day about a party with a mexican theme where guests have been asked to wear sombreros and droppy moustaches. Poster after poster agreed with the op that it's bad to hold such a party.

The main arguments seem to be predicated on the current/historic oppression of Mexican people by white people and how dressing as the oppressed class when you aren't a member is inappropriate at best and racist at worst. It makes my head spin that women are fair game.

I think the poll had the majority disagreeing with the OP, last time I looked. The comments were pretty divided too.

KittenKong · 05/11/2022 19:41

Bloody Kelly women. She is such a sell out.

ResisterRex · 05/11/2022 19:33

I'll always have fond memories of Culture Club but the radiator cuffing can't be erased..!

NeverOneBiscuit · 05/11/2022 19:04

ResisterRex funnily enough I was telling my teenager about this earlier this week, after she’d said how lovely he was. I said he was a complicated character, and told her about the handcuffing episode. She was really shocked.

Amazing what a comedy hat and a seat on The Voice can do for a man!

Diyverymuchanewbie · 05/11/2022 19:02

I am constantly amazed that boy George’s career survivors thst to be honest

ResisterRex · 05/11/2022 18:59

NeverOneBiscuit · 05/11/2022 18:46

It’s just endless. Boy George has apparently said if he wins I’m a Celebrity …. he wants to be crowned Queen, not King, of the jungle. No, hands off, you’re a man, so King it is. Appropriation aka stealing. Sick of it.

Also Boy George:

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7832565.stm

"Boy George has been jailed for 15 months for falsely imprisoning a male escort in his flat in east London.

The singer, whose real name is George O'Dowd, denied the charge and claimed the victim, Norwegian Audun Carlsen, 29, had stolen photos from his laptop.
O'Dowd, 47, admitted handcuffing him to a wall in April 2007 but said he did so in order to trace the missing property.
Judge David Radford told the former Culture Club singer he was guilty of "gratuitous violence"."

Empowermenomore · 05/11/2022 18:51

Had an argument with teen daughter who could not understand what was the deal . They do it for entertainment. When I said that’s what they used to do with blackface, she accused me of whatabouttery and said it’s not remotely similar. As it would be a white person disguising as another race, but everyone can do drag! I cannot get through to her yet! But she is young and will learn.

LisaPandervump · 05/11/2022 18:46

TheirEminence · 05/11/2022 18:42

It's ever so boring but I suspect it also pisses off actual transwomen. How dare you don my special identity for one night only??

Yes - hard to work out the message. Are we supposed to think they are oppressed? Or hilarious?

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NeverOneBiscuit · 05/11/2022 18:46

It’s just endless. Boy George has apparently said if he wins I’m a Celebrity …. he wants to be crowned Queen, not King, of the jungle. No, hands off, you’re a man, so King it is. Appropriation aka stealing. Sick of it.

TheirEminence · 05/11/2022 18:42

It's ever so boring but I suspect it also pisses off actual transwomen. How dare you don my special identity for one night only??

JacquelinePot · 05/11/2022 18:42

Meanwhile elsewhere on mn a thread has been running all day about a party with a mexican theme where guests have been asked to wear sombreros and droppy moustaches. Poster after poster agreed with the op that it's bad to hold such a party.

The main arguments seem to be predicated on the current/historic oppression of Mexican people by white people and how dressing as the oppressed class when you aren't a member is inappropriate at best and racist at worst. It makes my head spin that women are fair game.

Diyverymuchanewbie · 05/11/2022 18:42

wouldn’t do King for a Night would they

funny that

NeverOneBiscuit · 05/11/2022 18:42

I’ve been cursing at the TV every time I see the trailer for this. No doubt some back stories here and there, with Lorraine squealing about how brave the men are.

Another step on the ladder towards normalising “woman face”

FemaleAndLearning · 05/11/2022 18:40

Lorraine Kelly here heeee. I wonder if she will shout go girl!

AutumnCrow · 05/11/2022 18:37

I peronally think Lorraine Kelly has issues.

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