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Queens for the Night

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LisaPandervump · 05/11/2022 18:36

A show on ITV at 8pm tonight that sees male celebrities dressing in drag to be judged by a panel. Hosted by Lorraine Kelly.

More normalising womanface and misogyny on prime time tv for ‘family’ entertainment.

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WednesdaysChild11 · 05/11/2022 21:31

@LisaPandervump why is it humiliating to be a woman?

LisaPandervump · 05/11/2022 21:30

Because it’s not humiliating to be a man.

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WednesdaysChild11 · 05/11/2022 21:27

When are they going to do the other way round? Women dressing up as men for a competition? And why IS it (and always has been the case) that male to female drag is over represented and celebrated whereas female to male drag is virtually non-existent?! 🤔 Genuine question.

LisaPandervump · 05/11/2022 21:26

Lots of whooping and cheering on Twitter, talk of ‘true selves’ and ‘flying flags for LGBTQ’ and anyone that doesn’t like it is a gammon or TERF

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eyebright22 · 05/11/2022 21:24

bathbombaholic · 05/11/2022 21:16

@eyebright22 Lorraine Kelly is often a guess judge on Ru Paul's drag race... assuming that's why she's fronting this

Oh that makes sense. I don't watch Drag Race.

NotRightNowNo · 05/11/2022 21:23

How fucking depressing, men doing caricatures of women for prime time entertainment. So shakeperian

bathbombaholic · 05/11/2022 21:16

@eyebright22 Lorraine Kelly is often a guess judge on Ru Paul's drag race... assuming that's why she's fronting this

NeverOneBiscuit · 05/11/2022 21:12

Good point about all males apart from LK and Sporty Spice.

I’m out too. Mr Motivator, red lipstick framed by his moustache and beard, and wearing a corset. My line has been crossed ……

eyebright22 · 05/11/2022 21:08

NeverOneBiscuit · 05/11/2022 21:00

Oh ok, here we go. So a gay man feels he can be the real him by dressing as a caricature of a woman. How do those two things connect at all? Massive stereotyping of gay men. So regressive.

Yes I was a bit staggered by that connection as well.

The programme is all about men - all male contestants (no drag kings), male mentors, 3 male judges. Just Lorraine Kelly and Sporty Spice for the women.

Not sure what's up with Lorraine Kelly - suspect she's trying to hang on to her youth by appearing to be open minded and her idea of relevant.

I'm out now.

NeverOneBiscuit · 05/11/2022 21:06

So. I don’t like shopping, wearing high heels, cooking, and I can be opinionated and stubborn.

On those gender stereotypes do I get to go on King for a Night? I could be Harry Handyman, false beard and six pack, and try and assemble an Ikea bookcase in under 5 minutes.

Is that really any less ridiculous?

NeverOneBiscuit · 05/11/2022 21:00

Oh ok, here we go. So a gay man feels he can be the real him by dressing as a caricature of a woman. How do those two things connect at all? Massive stereotyping of gay men. So regressive.

LisaPandervump · 05/11/2022 20:57

I’m not watching - I don’t even know who George Shelley is…

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NeverOneBiscuit · 05/11/2022 20:55

George Shelley? I think the word celebrity is doing some heavy lifting here !

NeverOneBiscuit · 05/11/2022 20:54

I’ll hang in with you for a bit 💪

NeverOneBiscuit · 05/11/2022 20:52

Absolutely.

I’d love to know why Lorraine K is so utterly captured by the ideology. Never had an opinion about her before, now she just astounds me. It can’t be money or fame. Extended mid life crisis ?

eyebright22 · 05/11/2022 20:51

I'll watch one more act but I think I've seen enough to confirm it's just as bad as I thought it would be - if not a bit more, as it has no redeeming features at all, it's grotesque.

eyebright22 · 05/11/2022 20:49

This will be one of the programs in years to come that will feature in those shows saying 'wtf were they thinking' like those shows that feature racism in the 70s or the mini-pops.

NeverOneBiscuit · 05/11/2022 20:49

eyebright I actually can’t believe what I’m watching. This is prime time tv. Take out the stunning and brave and it would never get air time.

NeverOneBiscuit · 05/11/2022 20:45

It’s appalling. I’ve seen better school productions.

NeverOneBiscuit · 05/11/2022 20:44

Here we go …. apparently drag can help those from the LGBT.. community who were bullied at school.

eyebright22 · 05/11/2022 20:43

Watching as well. I like Courtney Act and appreciate that he hasn't got false boobs tonight (not sure if he does usually during his act), as I find that one of the most offensive things.

The whole concept is so offensive. Watch the men stagger round on heels just like silly women! Look at them with boobs just like silly women! Look at them be bitches just like silly women!

NeverOneBiscuit · 05/11/2022 20:41

Watching so I can have an informed opinion but don’t think I can stay the course.

ResisterRex · 05/11/2022 20:25

Like when Stormzy forgot about Skunk Anansie and Glasto?

glamourousindierockandroll · 05/11/2022 20:23

Didn't Boy George also say this week that he wanted to be the first gay man to win I'm A Celeb, forgetting all about Christopher Biggins?

Onthecuspofabreakthrough · 05/11/2022 20:20

I thought men dressing in drag for the night would be viewed as massively offensive (to trans women). I'm sure there was a fuss about men dressing up in womens clothes for stag nights.

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