Trans paedophile stays in women's refuge for 10 weeks

No, on the other thread someone said a paedophile who worked as a drag queen posed in a mermaids calendar. Not true. That there was a BDSM Mermaids calendar. Not true. That drag queen story time readers read stories in their lingerie to children. Not true. How is that tone policing pointing out lies and untruths. Tone policing is the way someone says something isn't it, not pointing out an inaccuracy? I literally said people could use hyperbole if it helps them. And are you really suggesting I join a TRA forum? I wouldn't know where to start looking.

Thanks those were interesting articles, and they all focussed on where the risk actually is: toxic men. That's where our focus should be. Safeguarding for all including trans people, yes but the biggest risk is and always will be men who make up 50% of the population (not all men are dangerous) not trans women who that article said make up 0.3% of the population (not all trans women are safe).

I will call out exaggeration and lies where I see it though

So you’re here to tone police women discussing the effect on women’s rights when it’s claimed that some men are women, but you’re not making any attempt to criticize the far more extreme lies and hyperbole commonly made by transactivists on forums where they talk.

Got it!

But if you want evidence that we are regularly told that women are not at risk from men who claim they are women, here are several articles where people claim exactly that:

bright-green.org/2020/09/26/trans-women-are-not-a-threat-to-women-they-are-women/

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11292513/Nicola-Sturgeon-insists-abusive-men-risk-women-not-trans-women-row-JK-Rowling.html

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/10/trans-rights-feminist-letter-rebecca-solnit

I'm not on any activist forums, well unless you count this one as a feminist one. I'm not 'focussed' on it, it just seemed odd, if it helps people to quote hyperbole it who am I to judge. I will call out exaggeration and lies where I see it though, as I've done on another thread tonight which was disinformation from start to finish. If I saw a trans person doing the same I would also call it out.

I presume that rather than saying the 'it never happens' they are actually saying don't tar them all with the same brush. Follow basic safeguarding. Single sex spaces are allowed under the equality act.

They have created a sacred caste of men, who can never be accused of wrongdoing. Anyone who commits an offence either did it because they were so distressed by their gender identity that they couldn’t help themselves (a good number have now not been sent to prison with this reason being cited) or they are not “true trans” and are just bad men pretending.

There”s also the constant accusation that we are demonising all men who claim they are women “because of a few bad apples”. No matter how many times we reiterate that we don’t want to exclude these men because they are trans (i.e. demonising them because of transphobia) but because they are men, it is ignored and the accusations of transphobia are reiterated.

We are not tarring trans people, we are pointing out that men (even those who claim they are women) shouldn’t be in women’s spaces, in part, because they show the same criminal and violent behaviour patterns as other men, even following medical transition.

Odd that you’re so focused on the sarcastic hyperbole of women here (“this never happens” is cynical humour) when the hyperbolic statements made by transactivists are so much more extreme. Are you on trans positive forums reminding the activists there that they are exaggerating when they say we are debating their existence?

That why many newspapers use photos of the individuals involved so the readers can see for themselves, it’s the only way around the ridiculous guidelines.
He should be in prison & it should be a men’s prison.

Stonewall is rich. Instead of spending money running indoctrination courses, they should open refuges and crisis centres for trans people. Men hoard the pie and women get the crumbs but we're still expected to share those crumbs with those men who hate us having anything. Men who are envious of women having domestic violence shelters remind me of people who are envious of people receiving disability benefits: they hate the idea of others getting something they can't have, even though to qualify one would have to undergo disability.

I presume that rather than saying the 'it never happens' they are actually saying don't tar them all with the same brush. Follow basic safeguarding. Single sex spaces are allowed under the equality act.

They didn't have access, the trans accommodation was separate. If trans accommodation is funded and set up why shouldn't they use it if they fit within the criteria, in this case no criminal convictions. They need to check that like they would anyone else. It seems they weren't checking anyone, natal women in the shelter could have been thieves or whatever they wouldn't have known because they weren't checking.

@PriOn1 they received funding to open a separate trans shelter. Document checks would have prevented a convicted person gaining access. It's fundamental. It basic safeguarding, it's not acceptable to exclude them all from a shelter funded and set up specifically for them. What's the 'certain age'? If I need to access a shelter and my son is 12? 14? 16? Where's the safeguarding check then? If it's men that's the danger why can I shelter with my son?

Who is it that's maintaining it doesn't happen when it obviously does.

There is constant denial from transactivists that “trans women” i.e. men who claim they are women, are a risk to women. Men who claim they are women are not the problem, apparently and can be trusted in women’s spaces, where other men are not allowed.

Which isn’t true if you look at criminal behaviour as men who claim they are women continue to show male rates of offending. Saying “I’m a women” doesn’t stop a man from showing very typical male behaviour patterns. Why would it?

Any man - regardless of his gender identity - poses a risk to women. The only way to keep vulnerable women safe is to make refuges women only.

Men like Dolatowski will exploit every single avenue to access victims. He is a predator.

Yes, and before they opened the accommodation (partly separate or otherwise) to males, they would not have admitted this male predator.

Being male is the strongest indicator we have for who will be a sexual predator. Anyone admitting males to a women’s shelter where there are also children is responsible every single time a male predator sexually abuses one of the women or children, who were previously kept safe by responsible safeguarding, where male people over a certain age were excluded.

No need to complicate it by suggesting this is about false documents. It’s about letting men in.

That's okay, understandable. Could you change your address so he doesn't know where you live, go ex directory and lock down or delete your social media. I know you shouldn't have to 😔

Thanks, and sorry, I'm a bit prickly at times..
I'm safe for now - afaik he gets out in 18 months though and I'm trying not to think too hard about it.

Fingers crossed there's space at Leeds WA if I need it next time..

He, he, he, not she

newboots

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@NewBootsAndRanty I'm sorry to hear that, are you safe now?

You were 😀

I was so close! 😆

Funnily enough, I HAVE had real life conversations about release on license.

The police rang and warned me that my violent ex was out of prison on licence after 12 months of his three year sentence for DV, had declined police transport to his arranged accommodation and hadn't turned up there.
I pretty much locked myself in my house for a week til they picked him up.

Lucky you that you've never had to have that kind of conversation.

Probation and licence

to be fair i think there is a parole board 🤔

On probation/licence, isn't it?

Ive no idea 😀

i just think its really funny 😀

if its any consolation dh had forgotten the British word for parole as well