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National Autistic Society - yikes

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NotPurpleAnymore · 04/11/2022 12:58

There's a lot of discussion about autistic people saying they identify as trans.

Here is an article currently being promoted on Twitter by the NAS twitter.com/Autism/status/1588508665308667905?t=RsbiDJqsNfDKGq9u0fCwig&s=19

To my mind, it seems to be celebrating top surgery and conflating this woman's late autism diagnosis with her decision that she is non binary.

Lots of talk about 'being seen'.

Does this make anyone else feel very uncomfortable? I think the unquestioning nature of the article makes it irresponsible.

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Fladdermus · 04/11/2022 16:03

The National Autistic Society makes me feel uncomfortable full stop. They are more interested in self preservation than protecting autistic people. They had a funding campaign that exploited autistic people's vulnerabilities. I posted about it on MN, under another user name, as their response to my complaint was appauling. They then thought is was appropriate to join up and post on my thread, revealing the content of emails I had sent them. Thankfully Mumsnetters stepped up and handed them their arses on a plate.

GrrrrAReform · 04/11/2022 15:59

I don't understand why, in an autism assessment, they wanted them to play with toys like tractors and look at magazines about fishing? The implication is that they were wanting them to play with 'boy' things? Why would that be? And then they mentioned being perceived as a girl all their life?

They had top surgery. I'm guessing again that most females who identify as non binary remove their breasts because they don't believe they should have them as they are 'signifiers' of being a woman and they refuse to believe that they are a woman. Is it about being less 'female-percieved' or being more 'male-percieved'. I don't understand how autism factors in to their non-binary identity.

I always thought that identifying as non-binary was a more 'rational' response to having gender dysphoria or incongruence. You don't feel 'right' but you accept that you can't 'be' another sex so you accept this middle ground that wants people to never refer to your sex at all and for you to never think in those terms either. It is such a big ask of society.

I wonder if many female-born, non-binary people take testosterone or have phallopasty. Or male-born non-binaries take oestrogen and nullify or have vaginoplasties? The body-modification aspects confuse me.

As for feeling uncomfortable about the NAS campaign? I guess they are saying that autistic people come in all shapes and sizes. It doesn't seem to be making any comment on how gender dysphoria and autism interact or impact each other - it just seems to want to celebrate it. I can't articulate whether that's a good or bad thing.

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