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You don't need a vagina to be a woman

57 replies

MeMe36 · 04/11/2022 08:14

I agree with them. You don't need a vagina to be a woman...

So there's no need for the NHS to provide vaginoplasties and hormone blockers then. 😏 Right? I mean, it's their own argument.

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Datun · 04/11/2022 13:36

Wiluli · 04/11/2022 12:53

It’s never a waste of time to call up on bigotry

I couldn't agree more.

WallaceinAnderland · 04/11/2022 13:30

Wiluli · 04/11/2022 11:20

I almost missed the trans bigotry post of the day ! You must have such a boring life

It's a good day for posting apt memes

You don't need a vagina to be a woman
EndlessTea · 04/11/2022 13:29

lechiffre55 · 04/11/2022 13:29

Extending the argument that if you "want" or "identify as" something that the government ( taxpayers ) are required to provide it, why stop at one?
If a person goes from male to female why can't they demand two vaginas?
If a person goes from male to female why can't they choose how many breasts they get? 1,2,3,4, more? What about instead of two average sized breasts you want one giant one right in the middle? Why do they have to be on the chest? Why can't you have them on your back, or one under each arm?

While there's what's considered a usual number of bodily bits per person, that same "considered usual" also applies to males having penises and females having vaginas. Considering we are throwing that "considered usual" out of the window, why do we have to stick to the usual numbers of body parts and location?

Does a person who identifies as having 3 arms have the right to a third one?

😂

lechiffre55 · 04/11/2022 13:29

Extending the argument that if you "want" or "identify as" something that the government ( taxpayers ) are required to provide it, why stop at one?
If a person goes from male to female why can't they demand two vaginas?
If a person goes from male to female why can't they choose how many breasts they get? 1,2,3,4, more? What about instead of two average sized breasts you want one giant one right in the middle? Why do they have to be on the chest? Why can't you have them on your back, or one under each arm?

While there's what's considered a usual number of bodily bits per person, that same "considered usual" also applies to males having penises and females having vaginas. Considering we are throwing that "considered usual" out of the window, why do we have to stick to the usual numbers of body parts and location?

Does a person who identifies as having 3 arms have the right to a third one?

Flounder2022 · 04/11/2022 13:23

So no need for corrective surgery for any reason is what you are saying?

EndlessTea · 04/11/2022 13:19

Hoardasurass · 04/11/2022 10:19

I saw this a while ago and it's quite apt for this thread 😀

Bookmarked

InterestingUsernameTBC · 04/11/2022 13:13

orbitalcrisis · 04/11/2022 09:07

I guess because some trans people hate the way they look and long to look the way they feel.

If you had a growth that you didn't like the look of, you'd want it removed even though it won't change who you are on the inside. Many women want their breasts rebuilt after a mastectomy or shave off their body hair, we all have something about our bodies we'd change. And if I had a penis or even just a penis looking growth, I'd want it removed! Wouldn't you?

What if the growth you didn't like were your toes? Or your ears? Would we not say those growths are part of having a perfectly normal, functioning body?

Signalbox · 04/11/2022 13:10

Wiluli · 04/11/2022 12:53

It’s never a waste of time to call up on bigotry

Poor Datun. I wonder how she will sleep at night after being called a bigot by a anonymous troll on the internet.

ReunitedThorns · 04/11/2022 13:08

Wiluli · 04/11/2022 12:53

It’s never a waste of time to call up on bigotry

Could you clarify a point please.

If a woman can have a penis, why does a transwoman need to have it removed to alleviate their feelings of gender dysmorphia?

SignOnTheWindow · 04/11/2022 13:02

Wiluli · 04/11/2022 12:53

It’s never a waste of time to call up on bigotry

That's what this forum is for. TRAs are as bigoted as they come.

Wiluli · 04/11/2022 12:53

Datun · 04/11/2022 11:49

Good job you spend your time checking for things you 'almost miss'.

It’s never a waste of time to call up on bigotry

Datun · 04/11/2022 12:23

BeanieTeen · 04/11/2022 12:15

The fact that they hate it, or want parts added or removed is a mental health issue, not a medical issue.

What is the difference?

for one you treat the body and for the other you treat the mind.

Happylittlechicken · 04/11/2022 12:21

So @BeanieTeen would you send an anorexic to weight watchers or send them for liposuction ? If not, why would you agree that someone should have healthy body parts removed because they feel they are wrong?

Signalbox · 04/11/2022 12:20

And if I had a penis or even just a penis looking growth, I'd want it removed! Wouldn't you?

Lol if a woman had a penis like growth growing between her legs there’d be a very good medical reason to have it removed. The same cannot be said for a perfectly functioning penis on a person who was born with it.

Deadringer · 04/11/2022 12:19

The difference is that instead of having parts removed or added to 'cure them' their condition should be treated with therapy to accept the normal, healthy body that they have?

BeanieTeen · 04/11/2022 12:15

The fact that they hate it, or want parts added or removed is a mental health issue, not a medical issue.

What is the difference?

Deadringer · 04/11/2022 12:05

orbitalcrisis · 04/11/2022 09:07

I guess because some trans people hate the way they look and long to look the way they feel.

If you had a growth that you didn't like the look of, you'd want it removed even though it won't change who you are on the inside. Many women want their breasts rebuilt after a mastectomy or shave off their body hair, we all have something about our bodies we'd change. And if I had a penis or even just a penis looking growth, I'd want it removed! Wouldn't you?

Most if not all trans people have perfectly healthy, normally functioning bodies. The fact that they hate it, or want parts added or removed is a mental health issue, not a medical issue. Not the same as having a growth that doesn't belong on a healthy body, or very large breasts that cause back pain amongst other issues.

BloodyHellKen · 04/11/2022 11:56

You don't need a vagina to be a woman

100% true. The only thing you definitely need is the absence of any Y chromosomes 😄

Datun · 04/11/2022 11:49

Wiluli · 04/11/2022 11:20

I almost missed the trans bigotry post of the day ! You must have such a boring life

Good job you spend your time checking for things you 'almost miss'.

Toseland · 04/11/2022 11:39

we all have something about our bodies we'd change
No i don't think I do - as an adult I've come to reject all the advertising trying to make me feel bad about my body and I'm happy as I am thanks.

Wiluli · 04/11/2022 11:20

I almost missed the trans bigotry post of the day ! You must have such a boring life

ReunitedThorns · 04/11/2022 10:50

The continual contradictions of the trans rights movement.

Trans rights was in a much better place when it was just transsexuals with medically diagnosed gender dysmorphia.

But since the nonsense of self-ID/genderfluid etc it's a mess.

For campaigners you don't need to transition to be the opposite sex, but to be on the safe side it's better to castrate and sterilise children.

NotBadConsidering · 04/11/2022 10:39

The logic would be laughable until it becomes a bunch of adults claiming their fully sexually functioning, fertile, bearded male bodies don’t need any form of medical adulteration to make them a woman but confused teenagers absolutely do as an imperative otherwise it’s a form of genocide.

The silence from the Alex Drummonds of the world failing to advocate for the fact children can grow up to be trans just like Alex without any medical treatments or surgery is despicable.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/11/2022 10:36
Grin
Hoardasurass · 04/11/2022 10:19

I saw this a while ago and it's quite apt for this thread 😀

You don't need a vagina to be a woman