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Jordan from channel 4 on gay star news

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stealtheatingtunnocks · 04/11/2022 04:24

i am trying, really trying, to understand why transition helps people with gender feelings.

jordan seems to say that bullying for hair happened when younger, now has realised the hair is great and feels happy about that.

jordan told Jordan’ s GP their diagnosis and does not mention exploring whether trauma/neurodiversity/sexuality struggles were contributing to the gender issues.

and is very happy with the girlfriend who is a lesbian but happy with Jordan’s physiology (I assume that is penis, rather than mitochondria)

and taking lots of oestrogen makes your mood unstable

and you can transition at any age without any intervention

and be a fetish if you want to be. But also don’t.

and Jordan loves us all. Even though we are unknown to Jordan we are very special.

what am I missing?

Was there an explanation about why taking cross sex hormones and having breast implants and getting your Willy onto prime time tv helps to manage gender dysphoria?

is there anything here of substance that can help me understand?

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Wellies54 · 05/11/2022 14:54

WarriorN · 05/11/2022 14:03

TW need to use women's loos because they might have the urge to administer BJ's to straight men if they use the men's

But if they're all lesbians and with penises won't that be happening in the woman's too?

ODFO JG.

You'd think so, but apparently in women's loos TW are only interested in peeing and pooing and any woman who might suggest otherwise is totally crazy!

WarriorN · 05/11/2022 14:03

TW need to use women's loos because they might have the urge to administer BJ's to straight men if they use the men's

But if they're all lesbians and with penises won't that be happening in the woman's too?

ODFO JG.

TheBiologyStupid · 05/11/2022 13:44

Mmmnotsure · 04/11/2022 20:34

Saying the quiet bits out loud.

If this is what you even think of doing in public toilets, that makes it completely clear why no women want you anywhere near theirs.

This!

Wellies54 · 05/11/2022 13:41

So, let's get this straight;
TW need to use women's loos because they're afraid of being attacked by men
TW need to use women's loos because men don't want to share with a male in a dress ( ref Lee Anderson's remarks about EI)
TW need to use women's loos because they might have the urge to administer BJ's to straight men if they use the men's

And it's women who are causing the problem here????

CentaureaCyanus · 05/11/2022 13:17

DD and I both screamed "yes" at the radio. Yes we would rather you use the men's toilets! Especially if you think public toilets are places where you want to engage in sex acts with strangers.

Agreed. That would be very obvious to most people, wouldn't it? NAMALT, but the ones who are, are the very reason why women need their own spaces.

ZandathePanda · 05/11/2022 13:14

Jordan needs to be exposed more (pun not intended) so everyone can listen to Jordan. Nicola Sturgeon definitely needs to listen to Jordan and watch Jordan’s show. She needs to think about why the ‘Educate’ Charity didn’t ‘know’ about Jordan’s reputation and when they did, dropped him from the charity. Then Nicola needs to think about why women want to retain our rights and why we voice concern for safeguarding particularly in places like schools, children’s clubs, changing rooms and public toilets.

ErrolTheDragon · 05/11/2022 13:10

DD and I both screamed "yes" at the radio. Yes we would rather you use the men's toilets! Especially if you think public toilets are places where you want to engage in sex acts with strangers.

Well, quite. I turned the radio off at that point, before my eyeballs rolled round the back of my head.

WarriorN · 05/11/2022 13:00

Sorry, I'd not seen the last few posts.

"Thanks for having me it's very important that you heard that" was a tad chilling.

Clearly detransitioners and feminists just need to become comedy acts to have their pov heard. Except they won't be platformed. The men's voices are too important.

WarriorN · 05/11/2022 12:58

"Thanks for having me it's very important that you heard that" - at the end of JG'a piece on the Now show R4 just now.

JG wanted you to hear a song about conspiracy reactions after the pandemic, including the 'hype' about where trans women poo and pee.

TeenDivided · 05/11/2022 07:40

I screamed at the radio too.

Just for info, The Now Show has twitter twitter.com/bbcnowshow

WhereAreWeNow · 05/11/2022 07:35

terryleather · 04/11/2022 20:11

"Transgender women need to pee and poo as well
There’s no conspiracy to steal your toilets
Would you prefer I did my business in the men’s
Administering BJs to your boyfriends"

I had the misfortune to turn on the radio just at this point of the song and turned off again after making a mad wild guess that this would be the penis piano player everyone's been on about.

In answer to the question, yes mate I would prefer you do your "business" in the men's with the rest of your brethren. HTH.

DD and I both screamed "yes" at the radio. Yes we would rather you use the men's toilets! Especially if you think public toilets are places where you want to engage in sex acts with strangers.

ApocalipstickNow · 05/11/2022 07:17

Puts me in mind of “why take 2 bottles into the shower?”

ApocalipstickNow · 05/11/2022 07:16

Peeing, pooing and administering blow jobs sounds like some quality multitasking.

ArabellaScott · 04/11/2022 23:15

'Jordan says when she was living as a young man, he described himself as a ‘red-blooded male’ who always had relationships with women'

metro.co.uk/2018/01/24/first-ever-transgender-contestant-voice-undergo-breast-enlargement-7258342/

Direct quote MN, I isn't misgendering!

ReunitedThorns · 04/11/2022 22:48

I assumed that Jordan was HSTS, not AGP. Appear that my assumption was wrong if Jordan has a girlfriend.

ArabellaScott · 04/11/2022 22:43

ninetynineAu · 04/11/2022 20:24

"Administering blow jobs" in the male toilets? Whatever happened to "We just need to pee"?

Just cannot help saying the quiet bits out loud can they?

Yes, indeed.

Jordan seems to be highly invested in being sexually desirable/desired.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 04/11/2022 22:35

Whatever happened to this world’s respect for science

from a man who thinks they're a woman?

right you are

MoirasSaggyBundles · 04/11/2022 22:19

IcakethereforeIam · 04/11/2022 20:53

Jordan isn't gay. Why on gay star news? Why administering bjs to other men? My boyfriend isn't gay either, he wouldn't want a bj from another bloke (i showed him a picture and asked, he's upstairs now - vomitingGrin).

It sounds like a threat of sexual assault to me.

IcakethereforeIam · 04/11/2022 21:23

I know, 'Form an orderly queue. Next'.

Datdamndamp · 04/11/2022 21:21

'Administering' that all sounds a bit clinical.

IcakethereforeIam · 04/11/2022 20:53

Jordan isn't gay. Why on gay star news? Why administering bjs to other men? My boyfriend isn't gay either, he wouldn't want a bj from another bloke (i showed him a picture and asked, he's upstairs now - vomitingGrin).

pombear · 04/11/2022 20:47

And what makes me the most angry is this is just slipped into mainstream comedy. Ha ha women, men who say they're women 'just want to pee and poo' in your space...you're an idiot for not wanting that, especially cos I might blow your boyfriend otherwise' ....and everyone claps.

Comedy used to challenge the status quo.

Given that the status quo right now in our society, driven by so many of the organisations we work for, get services from, are governed by, seem to be saying 'yay women, accept people with penises in your spaces otherwise you're bigots', I've lost my faith in comedy 🙁

Dreikanter · 04/11/2022 20:46

terryleather · 04/11/2022 20:11

"Transgender women need to pee and poo as well
There’s no conspiracy to steal your toilets
Would you prefer I did my business in the men’s
Administering BJs to your boyfriends"

I had the misfortune to turn on the radio just at this point of the song and turned off again after making a mad wild guess that this would be the penis piano player everyone's been on about.

In answer to the question, yes mate I would prefer you do your "business" in the men's with the rest of your brethren. HTH.

I heard this too. My level of swearing alerted DH to this being the penis piano player.

Not as misogynistic as the Ch4 debacle, but (literally) what a wanker.

pombear · 04/11/2022 20:41

pombear · 04/11/2022 20:35

And to the watchers of the thread, who report and get us deleted for using our words.

We still get the message out there to the lurkers and the readers of these threads who day by day see what's allowed to be said (reality) and what's not (gaslighting and suppression).

Deletions are telling. It doesn't aid your cause.

Clarification - what's NOT allowed to be said (reality) and what remains on these threads (gaslighting and suppression)

What was lost on my deleted post was the absolute misogyny slipped into an innocuous song about Mr Potato Head - whoops, BJs on your boyfriends cos you didn't let me pee and poo in your space.

It's sexual aggression wrapped up in glittery Mr Potato Head songs, and the audience applauds.

pombear · 04/11/2022 20:35

And to the watchers of the thread, who report and get us deleted for using our words.

We still get the message out there to the lurkers and the readers of these threads who day by day see what's allowed to be said (reality) and what's not (gaslighting and suppression).

Deletions are telling. It doesn't aid your cause.

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