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Response from health care service providers "assigned at birth"

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FernlovingNodosaur · 03/11/2022 07:53

Can you please give your thoughts on this matter and if your smart wording/thinking could add anything to my response letter.

I complained via email because I very recently received an unsolicited advert from my major health care provider see below for company. About a serious sex based disease yet the advert used assigned at birth manta.

Their response email below:

Dear Ms

I'm emailing you in response to your complain on Wednesday 2nd November regarding your unhappiness that we make reference to the term "assigned at birth" rather than classifying a specific gender.
I apologise if it has caused you any offence - it is not the service that Babylon aim to deliver.
Our marketing team are using the term "assigned at birth" to cause minimal offence to our many patients and we will be continuing to use this term. Unfortunately, we can't adapt marketing emails individually to each person's gender and have to use a neutral term.
If you have any further queries, please let me know.
Cheers,
Clinical Operations Team Leader.
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waterwitch · 03/11/2022 08:55

I would second GlassDeli’s changes to ‘sex assigned at birth’. If someone is really deep in this, and they’ve bought into the idea that their ‘sex assigned at birth’ is just wrong, then they may decide this doesn’t apply to them (yes I have actually heard someone say that…)

I would also highlight that they have used gender instead of sex, and that assuming someone’s gender and sex are the same is transphobic. Basically, as Helleofabore says, you’re mostly asking them to clarify their language to improve communications

Finally, they highlight that they don’t want to offend some (v loud) people. Ask how they know this new language is not offending a much larger number of less vocal people - they’ve already received at least one complaint!

Helleofabore · 03/11/2022 08:32

assigned at birth" rather than classifying a specific gender.
I apologise if it has caused you any offence - it is not the service that Babylon aim to deliver.
Our marketing team are using the term "assigned at birth" to cause minimal offence to our many patients and we will be continuing to use this term.

For a start, this person seems to have used gender in place of sex.

I would probably look for a balanced article pointing out the difficulties created in using terms that are not well understood by the majority of the audience, or will cause issues for people with issues with understanding the language (for whatever reason) to send in.

If you wanted to take this further, maybe get an email to the marketing manager (referencing the issues of not using male and female or women and (insert additional).

The issue is to make sure that as many people as possible understand the language to be informed about their health. Not to use words that are unfamiliar when trying to get important health messages out.

GlassDeli · 03/11/2022 08:17

The term 'assigned at birth' is incorrect. Sex is determined at conception by XX or XY chromosomes and it is observed at birth. No surgery, wishful thinking, clothing or makeup can alter a person's sex.

As a health care provider they should be dealing in scientific facts.

Have they asked their 'many patients' whether they find 'minimal offence' in the false, disingenuous, activist-led term, 'assigned at birth'?

It is offensive to deny that biological sex is what determines the health condition in question. It minimises and whitewashes the importance of biological reality and its lived experience.

They should change their wording to 'biological sex as observed at birth'. This would be better because 1. It is scientifically and medically correct. 2. It has less potential to offend, because it is inclusive of transgender people yet it doesn't deny sex is real.