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Cancel culture? Young people aren’t intolerant, we’re progressive

115 replies

Igneococcus · 03/11/2022 06:36

Supposedly us older folk know nothing about feminism or violence against women:
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/474fff50-5ad4-11ed-962f-53da0c787308?shareToken=546e4920254c77298c5e84d19894a71a

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PriOn1 · 03/11/2022 07:06

But is that really something we should be condemning? Speaking about the research, Channel 4 chief executive Alex Mahon said that Yips are “more censorious than their elders” but this was “in support of people they see as vulnerable”.

This is surely a good thing.

And here is her logic fail, and the reason why their insistence on silencing others falls down. The people they are championing are not vulnerable people (and at least she’s honest here, even if she’s missed the potentially negative implications) but people they perceive as vulnerable. If only she had more life experience, she might perhaps realize that older women than herself very often do have direct experience of feminism and violence against women and are, perhaps logically better able to judge real vulnerability against false claims to it.

PermanentTemporary · 03/11/2022 07:04

I'm genuinely looking forward to learning from my ds, who's at university at the moment. He'll bring me a breath of the wider world and new perspectives.

Luckily he's neither such a twat as to 'lecture' me, nor so posh as to have a connection at The Times to get this sort of clickbait published.

ISaySteadyOn · 03/11/2022 07:04

bellinisurge · 03/11/2022 07:00

I love how she can't conceive of the idea that people might be horrified by racism, homophobia and misogyny and still have a problem with selfID (because evryfin's transfobya, yeah?).
Definitely Maoism with a latte.

Maoism with a latte! Grin that's brilliant!

oopsfellover · 03/11/2022 07:01

Agree with some of what she says, and views like this do deserve to be heard, but ‘lecture’ and ‘pontificate’ made me wince. You have to be careful that ageism doesn’t just swing the other way.

bellinisurge · 03/11/2022 07:00

I love how she can't conceive of the idea that people might be horrified by racism, homophobia and misogyny and still have a problem with selfID (because evryfin's transfobya, yeah?).
Definitely Maoism with a latte.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 03/11/2022 06:59

Onthecuspofabreakthrough · 03/11/2022 06:53

That was quite funny - older people (as in, her dad's generation not the Queen's) not knowing about feminism and environmental issues. Where we all so cocky, once?

It’s just like the joy of being 50 and lectured about how section 28 is exactly analogous to trans rights by someone who wasn’t born until 2000

you weren’t even alive then you silly child

Hoardasurass · 03/11/2022 06:59

Wow so she agrees that gen Z and a certain section of millennials are intolerant echo chamber listening to zealots who are unable to listen to other opinions. But it's all good because it's our fault for being uneducated racist, homophobic, transphobic and not feminists 🤔🤣
God she and her sister come across as complete twats with her casual ageism and inability to accept other people's views.

RambamThankyouMam · 03/11/2022 06:55

All the misplaced zeal of Mao's Red Guards.

Helleofabore · 03/11/2022 06:54

Thanks for that Iggy.

Onthecuspofabreakthrough · 03/11/2022 06:53

That was quite funny - older people (as in, her dad's generation not the Queen's) not knowing about feminism and environmental issues. Where we all so cocky, once?

Mumteedum · 03/11/2022 06:52

Theeyeballsinthesky · 03/11/2022 06:49

Ah the rampant ageism of the young progressive

ageism being the one completely acceptable prejudice. If only those fighting ageism had fought to make it phobic rather than an ism

Well put.

This is all blinkered and sanctimonious opinion, lacking in critical thinking.

Beanbagtrap · 03/11/2022 06:50

I'm a millennial. I'm over 40. So lumping millennials in with gen z is problematic for a start. Randomly labelling people based on a vague generational cohort is also problematic. Yet people do seem to like a label. Perhaps I'm a non-generational cis-millenial?

Theeyeballsinthesky · 03/11/2022 06:49

Ah the rampant ageism of the young progressive

ageism being the one completely acceptable prejudice. If only those fighting ageism had fought to make it phobic rather than an ism

IrmaGord · 03/11/2022 06:48

She and her sister sound perfectly delightful. 'Lecturing' and 'pontificating' (her words) to close family and people at parties. They must be at the top of everyone's guest list when it comes to gatherings, familial or otherwise.

She sounds like a pompous twit tbh.

Happylittlechicken · 03/11/2022 06:40

Well then. That’s us oldies told isn’t it?