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Norwegian man identifies as disabled woman

87 replies

Waiting4baby2 · 02/11/2022 22:29

Just saw this - apparently he was given a sympathetic interview but it sparked backlash from disabled people (rightly so, wtf??!!!)
reduxx.info/norwegian-man-now-identifies-as-a-disabled-woman-uses-wheelchair-almost-full-time/
I have heard about people identifying as animals, children, another ethnicity to their own, now disabled… why has identifying as the opposite sex become socially acceptable but not these other identities? Surely it is equally as offensive/ bizarre?
If you believe that self ID is fine for men to ‘become women’ and vice versa doesn’t it follow you think you can self ID as anything? If everyone is simply whatever they say they are, why is the line drawn at ‘gender’?

OP posts:
viques · 03/11/2022 16:05

Fenneloup · 03/11/2022 08:10

It says in the article that he finds role playing a disabled woman sexually arousing. But why on earth does he feel the need to be securely aroused all the time?? Why can't he keep it to the bedroom or just in his head? Why impose it on everyone else?

Surely if he is paralysed from the waist down his sexual arousal must be a pretty pathetic event. Unless, oh miracle of miracles, his penis has remained unaffected by the paralysis!

Surely seeing something as extremely ridiculous as this mans pervy sexuality must make people realise that by accepting these men with their being women fantasies we are all being made complicit in their wet dreams.

Soubriquet · 03/11/2022 16:00

Bet he doesn’t sit and wonder if he can get out today. If his pain is minimal enough to go out.

That the venue can handle a wheelchair in the first place

twat

beastlyslumber · 03/11/2022 15:53

This 'transablism' grossness has been going on for a while now. I remember in the early days of the radical feminist blogosphere, there were many individuals agitating for transablism alongside transgenderism. And trans-age as well. It's all part of the same cluster: personality disorder, fetishes, misogyny.

ProtectAndTerf · 03/11/2022 15:03

nauticant · 03/11/2022 08:40

I remember reading about Chloe Jennings-White before and I noted there were pictures of Chloe hiking in a wheelchair. I suspect there are various reasons feeding into why someone would want to identify as disabled (or female) but one has struck me. Probably won't put this very well, but it's something to do with wanting to be noticed for doing something they can actually do easily. Pretending to be disadvantaged so they can "overcome" the supposed disadvantage. I suppose it's part of identifying into a marginalised group - they don't want to actually BE marginalised, but to have the glory of achieving things which can only be gained by pretending to be disadvantaged. So Chloe doesn't want to play a sort of weak or limited role or miss out on things, but instead play the role of "inspirational disabled woman" out hiking and so on.
(Whereas most disabled women actually want to get on with living their lives without being pitied or expected to be inspirational...)
It seems to be a perverse thing that has sprung out of identity politics. As we recognise people's achievements despite barriers, the dominant white, able-bodied males try to find a way back into the limelight.

nilsmousehammer · 03/11/2022 09:56

I wonder how much the children have been told about the anal sex that this individual enjoys as part of the role play with their 'parents'?

Behind closed doors what consenting adults do is their business. This stuffing fetish in the faces of non consenting others while demanding 'acceptance' of smashing their boundaries is nothing to celebrate, it's just thrill seeking behaviour that many ethical BDSM clubs would ban members for.

FemaleAndLearning · 03/11/2022 09:52

Stefonknee says her 'adoptive' family, which consists of an older couple and their children and young grandchildren, are completely accepting of her identifying as a little girl.

Who are the adoptive parents also telling that the name is pronounced Steff On Knee.

What 6 year old ducks a dummy. Oh and what a surprise he likes dressing as a school child.

Whatthechicken · 03/11/2022 09:47

AlwaysFoldingWashing · 03/11/2022 09:31

OMG I wasn't even aware this was a thing. How awful for your friend

There is an interesting article on this and self identity. It’s been posted before on another thread.

www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/12/a-new-way-to-be-mad/304671/

AlwaysFoldingWashing · 03/11/2022 09:31

FemaleAndLearning · 02/11/2022 23:32

My friend is an amputee and she is aware of people who want to have limbs amputated. My friend is on support groups for amputees and gets asked a lot of questions some people ask too many questions and they soon turn out to be those with an amputee fetish. It's disgusting.

OMG I wasn't even aware this was a thing. How awful for your friend

OldCrone · 03/11/2022 09:28

nauticant · 03/11/2022 08:40

Melanie Reid (who is disabled) wrote about Jennings-White in 2012.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/spinal-column-no-truck-with-transableists-r3qrr3glx73

archive.ph/rIKDk

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 03/11/2022 09:18

‘Spends ‘her ‘ time playing with the couple’s young grandchildren’

it always ends up there, doesn’t it? I wonder if the unsupportive family didn’t welcome him ‘playing’ with his own children?

(cis family? Cis children?)

Holdonwharaboutthewaffles · 03/11/2022 09:17

Fenneloup · 03/11/2022 08:10

It says in the article that he finds role playing a disabled woman sexually arousing. But why on earth does he feel the need to be securely aroused all the time?? Why can't he keep it to the bedroom or just in his head? Why impose it on everyone else?

Oh. Ignore my previous post.

Holdonwharaboutthewaffles · 03/11/2022 09:16

Is that not Munchausens?

WeAreOnTheRoadToNowhere · 03/11/2022 09:11

Years ago there was a surgeon in Newcastle who amputated healthy limbs. People came to him from all over the world. C4 ran a documentary, there was a public outcry, and he stopped doing the surgeries
I think, like identifying as the opposite sex, if a therapist delves into the background or works with the person there is always a reason. I read about one young man who wanted his leg amputating. It turned out his parents were very busy running a successful business making prosthetic limbs🤔

Whatthechicken · 03/11/2022 09:04

Now as a tax payer, think about how you feel about an able bodied person identifying into having a carer, converted car, washroom installed, parking spaces and competing with actually disabled people for that funding, and the services' time.

I wonder what Starmer’s response would be if someone suggested the above? It would be interesting to see him wriggle about why this scenario isn’t ok and yet self IDing as the opposite sex is perfectly fine.

knittingaddict · 03/11/2022 08:57

Grifters, the lot of them.

You almost never dig down into stories like this and think "what a lovely human being". They always come across as self absorbed and narcissistic.

And once again a real woman suffers at the heart of it. It's enough to make you despair.

getsomehelp · 03/11/2022 08:47

Can I identify as a pensioner, quit my job & claim my pension ?

nilsmousehammer · 03/11/2022 08:46

Also link this to the huge cuts currently being made by social care, the fact that most counties are breaking under the pressure of trying to fund the care bills for the elderly and disabled, carers and conversions and nursing home places.

Now as a tax payer, think about how you feel about an able bodied person identifying into having a carer, converted car, washroom installed, parking spaces and competing with actually disabled people for that funding, and the services' time.

The ground's been prepared, in part because many females have been so co operative about the invasion of their spaces, funding, resources. I will be fascinated to see how many are still saying 'oh be kind' as the demands ratchet up.

nilsmousehammer · 03/11/2022 08:42

Keep watching. Transaged will sooner or later come as a serious attempt, as soon as some fool opened the door to it being possible to claim a legal fiction of being something you are objectively in reality not, this was always just a matter of time. We'll hear the cries of bigot and it being discriminatory to deny a 50 year old bloke in a nappy access to his local nursery, and to have access to all the spaces and resources for children with No Exceptions.

And at that point I shall be getting out a lot of popcorn and saying to politicians 'We told you so bloody years ago'.

nauticant · 03/11/2022 08:40

There's a more well known person who's been at this for a long time:

ovarit.com/o/GenderCritical/158238/the-notorious-tim-clive-chloe-jennings-white-who-is-also-trans-disabled-and-pret

caramac04 · 03/11/2022 08:37

ninetynineAu · 03/11/2022 04:51

I realise it wasn't ideal for capitalism or totalitarian but I do miss the days when we were allowed to point out lying for what it was ie. Lying.

Wouldn’t that be refreshing and liberating.
At best this male is ill, he could just be selfish, controlling and bloody horrible

Gingernaut · 03/11/2022 08:18

Saw this comment on Twitter

Imagine sharing a space with someone you believe to be a disabled woman in a wheelchair, only to find it's an able bodied man.

He's an attention seeking threat

zanahoria · 03/11/2022 08:12

Brave and stunning

bellinisurge · 03/11/2022 08:12

Fuck off you entitled twat. I have MS. I am a women. Stop using people like me for you wank bank.

Fenneloup · 03/11/2022 08:10

It says in the article that he finds role playing a disabled woman sexually arousing. But why on earth does he feel the need to be securely aroused all the time?? Why can't he keep it to the bedroom or just in his head? Why impose it on everyone else?