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Norwegian man identifies as disabled woman

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Waiting4baby2 · 02/11/2022 22:29

Just saw this - apparently he was given a sympathetic interview but it sparked backlash from disabled people (rightly so, wtf??!!!)
reduxx.info/norwegian-man-now-identifies-as-a-disabled-woman-uses-wheelchair-almost-full-time/
I have heard about people identifying as animals, children, another ethnicity to their own, now disabled… why has identifying as the opposite sex become socially acceptable but not these other identities? Surely it is equally as offensive/ bizarre?
If you believe that self ID is fine for men to ‘become women’ and vice versa doesn’t it follow you think you can self ID as anything? If everyone is simply whatever they say they are, why is the line drawn at ‘gender’?

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PearlclutchersInc · 05/11/2022 18:54

@nilsmousehammer quite agree. This has really irritated me (along with the way they've treated their poor wife). 🙄🙄

Mochudubh · 05/11/2022 18:54

I came straight here from the Herald to see if there was a thread about this. This is so fucking predictable, soon "normal", boring cis people will be so rare we'll be the new "special" I can't wait.

www.heraldscotland.com/opinion/23101806.issue-day-able-bodied-norwegian-identifies-disabled-woman/

Holdonwharaboutthewaffles · 05/11/2022 18:46

I will do everything to stay out of a wheelchair. Have mine.

nilsmousehammer · 05/11/2022 16:54

PearlclutchersInc · 05/11/2022 11:40

Think this person needs some serious therapy. There is nothing fun about disability. I'd be more than happy to give them mine.

Quite. As for being stunning and brave and oh look at me conquering mountains with my disability...

fuck the fuck off.

If I could swan about in a chair without the exhaustion and chronic pain and attendant internal fuck ups and medication and having to plan extensive escape routes that don't include just getting out of the chair and walking away if it all gets a bit tricky then -

well frankly, I'd do a hell of a lot of things I currently can't, but posing up mountains with photographers stroking my ego wouldn't be on the list.

inappropriateraspberry · 05/11/2022 11:53

It reminds me of being little and pretending we were in wheelchairs, shuffling about on school chairs! It's like this, but given free rein.

PearlclutchersInc · 05/11/2022 11:40

Think this person needs some serious therapy. There is nothing fun about disability. I'd be more than happy to give them mine.

Fukuraptor · 05/11/2022 11:36

Some experts believe it is caused by a neurological fault, in which the brain's mapping system cannot see a certain body part.

For some people this may be the case but it ought to be treatable to reintegrate it. There's a book I listened to called "Livewired" by David Eagleman which talks about some of the science around how our brains process sensory inputs and how this changes if one of those inputs stops providing data, and how our brains can adapt to process the data from other sources or even novel sensory inputs - you'll have heard of blind people whose hearing processing is more advanced than average. But it can go beyond this into technological adaptions for disabilities.

He also talks about how our brains have a model of our bodies from the sensory information coming from them - how we extend this model for riding bikes, driving etc and how amputees are effected by the loss of data from the missing limb/s. Similar effects that can be simulated by providing false/unexpected biofeedback.

If someone has the feeling that a limb they do have doesn't belong to them, there are likely exercises one could do to reintegrate that biological feedback back into the brain's model of the body. Assuming of course that they wanted to live with the reality of the body they have rather romanticise the disassociation and identity of disability.

I found the book really fascinating.

AliensAteMyHomework · 05/11/2022 10:22

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 05/11/2022 10:02

I honestly don’t know how I’d react to seeing an adult man dressed in a nappy and bonnet carrying out his fetish in a children’s play park. I thought I’d already peaked but that would just about finish me tbh.

I think a normal reaction to that would be to call the police. It's menacing.

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 05/11/2022 10:02

I honestly don’t know how I’d react to seeing an adult man dressed in a nappy and bonnet carrying out his fetish in a children’s play park. I thought I’d already peaked but that would just about finish me tbh.

Soubriquet · 05/11/2022 10:01

These men never approach other men to change their dirty nappies do they

Holdonwharaboutthewaffles · 05/11/2022 09:58

First do no harm eh.

Signalbox · 05/11/2022 08:40

Chloe is also transgender. Previously known as Clive.

Ha ha serves me right for not reading the whole thread. I see this person's already been discussed. I stand corrected :)

OldCrone · 05/11/2022 08:18

Signalbox · 05/11/2022 08:00

Sadly not…

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/17/body-integrity-identity-disorder-disabled-woman-chloe-jennings-white_n_3609392.html

But interestingly all the same narrative as for transgenderism complete with suicide threat and lets try reversible disability to check the person is certain before making it permanent. This could easily be the next mental health condition that people are demanding surgeries and treatment for on the NHS.

Some experts believe it is caused by a neurological fault, in which the brain's mapping system cannot see a certain body part.

For years she bandaged herself secretly, but now lives openly with her condition, despite facing intolerance, insults, and sometimes online threats.

Chloe first realised she was different at the age of four, after visiting her Aunt Olive, who was using leg braces after a bike accident.

While researching the braces online, Chloe read about BIID for the first time and found out there were others like her.

"It was a huge relief," said Chloe. "I wasn't a freak - there were hundreds of others like me."

Chloe writes for the BIID support group www.transabled.org and believes it is important to raise awareness about the condition.

Psychiatriast Dr Mark Malan, who treats Chloe, said: "The question I often ask is, is it better to have somebody pretending to use a wheelchair, or to commit suicide?

"One possibility could be to do some sort of nerve blocking so that that limb could not actually be used for a period of time, to let the patient test the reality of being physically disabled temporarily.

"It would give BIID sufferers a chance to change their minds if they wanted to."

Chloe is also transgender. Previously known as Clive.

Signalbox · 05/11/2022 08:00

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 05/11/2022 07:31

It’s always men isn’t it. Always men pulling these stunts. The phrase ‘in plain sight’ has never been more apt than in the situation we are now facing.

Sadly not…

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/07/17/body-integrity-identity-disorder-disabled-woman-chloe-jennings-white_n_3609392.html

But interestingly all the same narrative as for transgenderism complete with suicide threat and lets try reversible disability to check the person is certain before making it permanent. This could easily be the next mental health condition that people are demanding surgeries and treatment for on the NHS.

Some experts believe it is caused by a neurological fault, in which the brain's mapping system cannot see a certain body part.

For years she bandaged herself secretly, but now lives openly with her condition, despite facing intolerance, insults, and sometimes online threats.

Chloe first realised she was different at the age of four, after visiting her Aunt Olive, who was using leg braces after a bike accident.

While researching the braces online, Chloe read about BIID for the first time and found out there were others like her.

"It was a huge relief," said Chloe. "I wasn't a freak - there were hundreds of others like me."

Chloe writes for the BIID support group www.transabled.org and believes it is important to raise awareness about the condition.

Psychiatriast Dr Mark Malan, who treats Chloe, said: "The question I often ask is, is it better to have somebody pretending to use a wheelchair, or to commit suicide?

"One possibility could be to do some sort of nerve blocking so that that limb could not actually be used for a period of time, to let the patient test the reality of being physically disabled temporarily.

"It would give BIID sufferers a chance to change their minds if they wanted to."

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 05/11/2022 07:31

It’s always men isn’t it. Always men pulling these stunts. The phrase ‘in plain sight’ has never been more apt than in the situation we are now facing.

DramaGiraffe · 05/11/2022 02:42

getsomehelp · 03/11/2022 08:47

Can I identify as a pensioner, quit my job & claim my pension ?

Don't see why not. Why should age not be up for grabs? At least young people will eventually become old people, so it's not as outrageous as the other claims.

DramaGiraffe · 05/11/2022 02:40

They should cut both of his legs and his penis off. Still not be a woman but if he wants to be disabled let him experience it to his full state or pure arousal.

ProtectAndTerf · 05/11/2022 02:26

TeiTetua · 05/11/2022 00:51

Look on the bright side. He poses no threat to women's athletics.

No, he'd be going for the Paralympics. Taking away something people who are actually oppressed have fought for.

inappropriateraspberry · 05/11/2022 01:20

It's pretty basic attention seeking isn't it? He says it stems from seeing a child with crutches. That child probably got lots of attention and needed some help at school - so he thought 'I'd like a piece of that please!'
He needs serious help and his poor wife needs help extricating herself from this.

TeiTetua · 05/11/2022 00:51

Look on the bright side. He poses no threat to women's athletics.

mrshoho · 05/11/2022 00:35

I wonder if there are any medical professionals happy to assist in his transition to being paraplegic.

beastlyslumber · 04/11/2022 21:16

TheKeatingFive · 04/11/2022 20:33

he presented himself to female staff at different campuses — in several cases asking them to change his soiled diapers.

Ffs 🙄

If it happened today I'd be 50/50 on whether the female staff would be sacked for saying no.

Itisbetter · 04/11/2022 20:57

I realise it wasn't ideal for capitalism or totalitarian but I do miss the days when we were allowed to point out lying for what it was ie. Lying. you don’t need someone to “allow” you to tell the truth.

FourChimneys · 04/11/2022 20:49

I'd like to put him in an emergency situation, one where people would run for their lives, on difficult terrain. Would he still use a wheelchair then?

Of course he wouldn't.

What a selfish, attention-seeking creep.

TheKeatingFive · 04/11/2022 20:33

he presented himself to female staff at different campuses — in several cases asking them to change his soiled diapers.

Ffs 🙄

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