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It's made it to The Guardian at last!.... oh hang on

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Birdsweepsin · 02/11/2022 07:38

www.theguardian.com/society/2022/nov/02/gender-identity-specialists-accuse-psychology-body-of-contributing-to-fear

The statement suggests that “GIDS took an approach that was predominantly affirmative, rather than exploratory”. But the letter writers argue: “Being ‘affirmative’ is often misrepresented as meaning that a trans identity is encouraged, or treated as a preferred outcome, when an alternative understanding is that this practice is a stance whereby no particular path or identity is privileged over any other.”

We have changed the meaning of the word 'affirmative', in other words.🙄

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AutumnsCrow · 02/11/2022 10:27

Well, well. I always wondered why Adrian Chiles's sad little articles about fuck all were published in the Graun so regularly.

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Birdsweepsin · 02/11/2022 10:21

Woo hoo, go Hadley! In this weeks Private Eye:

It's made it to The Guardian at last!.... oh hang on
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IcakethereforeIam · 02/11/2022 10:08

The penultimate paragraph, which was a riposte to the allegation of 'diagnostic overshadowing'

The letter suggests: “An alternative interpretation is that it is possible to provide support for distress related to gender identity where mental health needs and neurodiversity are also present, and remain cognisant of all factors within formulation-based practice”.

The experience of detransitioners seems to be, while this is possible, it often wasn't what happened. The gender dysphoria was put front and centre and comorbidities completely ignored.

I'm glad the signatories of the letter weren't given the last word. It was pretty strongly refuted by Mike Wang, the chair of ACP-UK.

IvyTwines · 02/11/2022 09:25

The Guardian is like Macbeth now, in too deep to go back.

rogdmum · 02/11/2022 08:44

The open letter is here if anyone wants to read it.

Pram. Toys. Thrown out.

medium.com/@genderopenletter/open-letter-to-the-acp-uk-e668378d95f4

AutumnsCrow · 02/11/2022 08:27

I see Polly Carmichael signed the letter. More defensiveness in the face of Cass?

WomenShouldWinWomensSports · 02/11/2022 07:52

The refrain of "Four legs good, two legs bad" has truly become "four legs good, two legs better."

GrabbyGabby · 02/11/2022 07:49

This is the bit i realllly dont get. If one path means life long medication, likely removal of healthy body parts, likely sterilisation and issues with sexual function, and the other path is no medication, body remains in tact, reproductive capacity in tact, sexual function in tact. WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU NOT GIVE PREFERENCE TO ONE PATH OVER ANOTHER????

oldwomanwhoruns · 02/11/2022 07:47

I admire your perseverance in continuing to read the Guardian. I won't be going back to read it any time soon...

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