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Gender affirming haircuts

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IamAporcupine · 01/11/2022 17:24

It's Trans Awareness Week and I've just received a work email advertising these for free. 🙄

I could do with a haircut - do you think I could go and say that I identify as a woman and need my femenine gender affirmed?

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IamAporcupine · 03/11/2022 18:17

ArabellaScott · 03/11/2022 15:52

I feel 'the North Korean Lady-Hair scale' should be taught in schools as an adjunct to the Mermaids GI Joe/Barbie scale.

This, please!

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ArabellaScott · 03/11/2022 15:52

I feel 'the North Korean Lady-Hair scale' should be taught in schools as an adjunct to the Mermaids GI Joe/Barbie scale.

OriginalUsername2 · 03/11/2022 14:54

Trans awareness? Are they kidding?! We are all very aware.

Wanderingowl · 03/11/2022 14:52

I usually have a bob, I figured it was one of the stereotypical 'woman' things about me, even though I cut it myself because I can't stand going to a hairdresser. (I don't use a kitchen scissors though, I have a special haircutting one from Boots.) Now I learn that it's instead further proof that I'm actually an enby. I'm glad the internet could keep on educating me this week.

TheClogLady · 03/11/2022 10:07

ArabellaScott · 02/11/2022 13:41

Being incredibly brave, unique and special, I cut mine in the style of 'drunk teenager with blunt scissors', which affirms my inner gender perfectly.

After one too many ridiculous gender missives from my well-meaning but utterly befuddled with batshittery children I theatrically cut my mid back hair into an ear length bob (a mix of 1 and 2 on the North Korean Lady-Hair scale) with the kitchen scissors and asked if they were all going to start calling me ‘Dad’ now?

it’s been a great terfy conversation opener ever since…

’Oh wow, Cloggie, you’ve had a pretty dramatic hair cut since I last saw you!’

’Yes, I did it myself with the kitchen scissors because the kids had latched onto some regressive, sexist idea that a girl who has short hair and wears trousers to school is magically transformed into being a boy!
Kids are well weird on this 2022 timeline, aren’t they?’

ArabellaScott · 03/11/2022 09:50

<whispers> gender = stereotypes, don't tell anyone or the game's a bogey

Chersfrozenface · 03/11/2022 09:46

Are "gender affirming haircuts" hair styles that conform to the those stereotypically worn by males / females in a person's particular society?

They aren't gender affirming haircuts, then, are they? They're stereotype conforming haircuts or stereotype imposing haircuts.

Ridelikethewindypops · 02/11/2022 17:48

Oh hang on, I thought I was cool but I'm actually rocking the #8 on @ArabellaScotts chart. Dang it.

Findwen · 02/11/2022 17:10

This week I have mostly been AmongusGender, I would be fascinated to see what haircut I would be given.

Gender affirming haircuts
IamAporcupine · 02/11/2022 15:09

ArabellaScott · 02/11/2022 13:40

You ladies can have any of these 18 affirming haircuts.

newsfeed.time.com/2013/02/25/these-are-north-koreas-28-state-approved-hairstyles/

😳

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ArabellaScott · 02/11/2022 13:41

Being incredibly brave, unique and special, I cut mine in the style of 'drunk teenager with blunt scissors', which affirms my inner gender perfectly.

ArabellaScott · 02/11/2022 13:40

You ladies can have any of these 18 affirming haircuts.

newsfeed.time.com/2013/02/25/these-are-north-koreas-28-state-approved-hairstyles/

AryaStarkWolf · 02/11/2022 13:15

What an absolute joke they're making out of all the advances women had made in moving away from all these stupid gender "boxes" here we are again back to being a pair of high heels and girly haircut ffs

alloutofcareunits · 02/11/2022 13:04

FrizzledFrazzle · 02/11/2022 10:11

I tried to educate myself with this:
www.seventeen.com/beauty/hair/g40314165/gender-neutral-haircuts/

It seems any hair is gender neutral hair.

This is one of the most ridiculous things I've seen, it's literally a series of haircuts, several of which I have had at some time in my life as a WOMAN. I'm actually laughing at my desk reading this 😂

turbonerd · 02/11/2022 13:04

I also Wonder what a shrimp gender identity affirmation haircut would look like.
asking for a friend 🤔

turbonerd · 02/11/2022 13:01

@MagpiePi
thank you

priceless thread.
witless parent 🙀

Sh4rkAttack · 02/11/2022 12:21

Ivyonafence · 02/11/2022 10:57

Jesus, it's their business and time. They can do it if they want.

It's nothing to do with you. It's not a 'womens space' or anything to do with womens rights.

This cause get more ridiculous by the day.

Since when have we only been able to discuss issues that impact directly on women's spaces or rights? This is relevant because it highlights the contortions necessary to prop up this ridiculous ideology. It also illustrates how it is generally women who get screwed by these contortions... I wonder how many men identify as non- binary in order to be allowed to pay more for their haircut? I wonder how many of the non binary women think they got a good deal, when they are still paying more than men?

IamAporcupine · 02/11/2022 11:07

Ivyonafence · 02/11/2022 10:57

Jesus, it's their business and time. They can do it if they want.

It's nothing to do with you. It's not a 'womens space' or anything to do with womens rights.

This cause get more ridiculous by the day.

You may see it that way.

I actually think that anything that buys into this nonsensical ideology affects women's spaces and rights.

WTF is a 'gender affirming haircut'? Seriously, what is it?

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EBearhug · 02/11/2022 11:03

My hair is long mostly because I can't be arsed with going to the salon every 6 weeks or so, and i just get the ends trimmed once in a while. It is no different in style from male colleagues who have long hair. I have deep hair envy of one man's long hair, which is in fab condition.

I've had it cut in a barber's before. (Couldn't get an appointment in my usual place.) The only difference was I had my hair washed leaning forward rather than back.

Charging by complexity of cut makes much more sense than whether the person under the hair is male or female or any sort of identity.

Ivyonafence · 02/11/2022 10:57

Jesus, it's their business and time. They can do it if they want.

It's nothing to do with you. It's not a 'womens space' or anything to do with womens rights.

This cause get more ridiculous by the day.

RedToothBrush · 02/11/2022 10:54

RubbishRobotFromTheDawnOfTime · 02/11/2022 10:41

Yes, you’d think so. There’s already a controversy over salons charging differently for mens’ and womens’ hair but this is usually based on different hairstyles and more time consuming traditional womens’ styles costing more. In this case they’re charging more for exactly the same style based on the customer’s sex/proclaimed gender identity .

How long before we start seeing legal challenges then?

Its an open goal waiting to happen.

RubbishRobotFromTheDawnOfTime · 02/11/2022 10:41

RedToothBrush · 02/11/2022 10:30

Surely this falls foul of discrimination law straight away?

Yes, you’d think so. There’s already a controversy over salons charging differently for mens’ and womens’ hair but this is usually based on different hairstyles and more time consuming traditional womens’ styles costing more. In this case they’re charging more for exactly the same style based on the customer’s sex/proclaimed gender identity .

RubbishRobotFromTheDawnOfTime · 02/11/2022 10:36

FrizzledFrazzle · 02/11/2022 10:11

I tried to educate myself with this:
www.seventeen.com/beauty/hair/g40314165/gender-neutral-haircuts/

It seems any hair is gender neutral hair.

This is a page of normal haircuts that have been around for decades. They’re trying so hard!

Libre2 · 02/11/2022 10:31

TeenDivided · 01/11/2022 17:58

They'd be better off saying

Simple clipper cut - nothing fancy £X
Short cut with additional styling £
Trim any length £
etc

Remove any talk of gender from the price list at all.

(So we have Trans awareness week, LBGT month, Trans day of remembrance. When is GC day?)

Or boringly normal hetero day?

RedToothBrush · 02/11/2022 10:30

RubbishRobotFromTheDawnOfTime · 02/11/2022 09:46

A salon near me offers non gender cuts, with long and short options. My hair is above jawline and I see no reason why I shouldn’t ask for a short non gender cut and finish instead of a ladies’ cut, seeing as the styles would be identical. I could save £13.

Surely this falls foul of discrimination law straight away?