Who are Posie's new friends?

Honestly, I'll never get over the rank stupidity of trans activism.

People are having to drill into the private lives of service providers she is using, in order to find something about them to try and smear her and then claim that's her doing a bad job and giving ammunition to TRAs!!

It's utterly risible. It's not even nonsense. It's just words flung together.

Maybe you need to stop thinking of these women as left wing feminists. They keep repeating telling you they are not. They are women looking to maintain the rights women have.

Once you get your head around that it might be easier to leave them alone and let them get on with it. Because it’s starting to look like obsession.

1. ''Giving the TRAs ammo''

Are you being serious????? The TRAs are literally DENYING BIOGICAL REALITY and saying that sex is a spectrum. At this point, does it matter what they do or don't say? Does it matter what ammo they do or dont use?? They could at this point argue that father christmas says TWAW.

And in fact, they don't need to use this ammo themselves because YOU are doing a fantastic enough job at attacking women yourself, so im sure they are very thankful to you.

2. Have you listened to any of the talks by the women? How do you know she isn't raising awareness. Im sure she is raising alot of awareness to how violent the TRA/MRA movement is.

3. ''she could have done a great tour.she has not''

Well this is what it all boils down to, the need to put her down. Go and do a better job then, I bet you havent got the guts. No? Well respect her bravery and constructively engage.

What I see is an honest woman, who deeply cares about the undermining of womens rights through the transgender movement, who enjoys speaking publically and giving a platform to other women to speak too. She is a powerful, strong, clear, concise, motivational speaker who does not back down in the face of male agression or male dominance. What I see is a woman trying her best, doing things the way she thinks is right in the face of threat and violence. And trying to remain safe so she can return to her kids.

A constructive way to deal with this would be a congratulations to our fellow female who is standing the fuck up, a pat on the back for sheer bravery, and a respectful dialogue over politics if you so wish.

Trying to tear her down is the bitchiest shit i have ever seen.

TBF, how could KJK have stopped the Proud Boys, or any other group, from turning up at her events?

She speaks in open, public, places where anyone can go. Are people seriously suggesting that she closes down her events whenever somebody "problematic" turns up? No events would happen at all if that was the case!

Oh good lord, it's like actually walking around in someone else's delusion.

The TRAs have been shown up to be violent thugs who won't let women speak, and who have to be kept at bay by armed security!

if you think that's 'ammo' for their cause, then I'm sorry, you're living in an alternative universe.

One of her strategies is to expose the violence of transactivism.

I mean c'mon!!!!

As opposed to all the other posts on this thread which clearly aren't touchy about the close association with extreme far right ideology in any way.

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@AreWeTheBaddies Has done a bad job thinking that KJK is a figurehead for the entire movement and that one criticism of her will suddenly eliminate the whole pushback on trans activists' demands.

Essentially the activism is limited in audience as it's only targeted at people reading this one thread.

I’m late to the thread so not sure if this has been mentioned.

today I’ve seen a picture of Julie Bindel with Peter Tatchelll and seen that apparently she is sharing a stage with known antisemites soon. You can’t really sling shit at Rosie when your doing this yourself. Plus the lies about ‘children being maced’ were embarrassing.

I watched a couple of videos of the tour and those TRA are bloody threatening/aggressive. The men that are helping are probably the only guys willing to do security there.

some women are obsessed with Posie and it just boils down to jealousy it really does

Ohai, sorry to butt in. Who is the 'we' in this most recent post of yours, it isn't clear. Thank you.

Listening to a Trigonometry episode about Incels, researchers found that Incels were more likely to be left-wing because they believe everything should be shared, or have equal access to, and the target of that is the female body and sexual intercourse.

Incels aren't keen on the successful high earners, because that's what they're not.

She is standing on the street, in a hostile situation, with aggressive men baying at her, in a country where the civilians can be armed, after Chapelle & Rushdie attacks and general 'left' extremism....

HOW can anyone be criticising her ffs??

Can you for one second imagine how it must feel for her to get up in the morning, and go out to one of these events, knowing full well she might be attacked or shot?? Can you put yourself in her shoes for one second? Or Is it better that she is attacked and remains 'pure'?

I was a little nervous walking into the FILIA event, not knowing if there might be a protest outside. I fleetingly wondered to myself 'imagine if I got stabbed by a nutter?' because there is alot of violent 'anti-terf' propaganda circulating, it didn't seem inpossible. As I walked back to my hotel in the evenings with my suffragette coloured umbrella I kept alert.

I am much bigger than Posie, and I am by bo means a meek woman. Im a pretty mouthy, 'common' woman, if you will. Im not scared and can hold my own... But I cna gand on heart say I would not have the guts to do what she is doing. She has the courage of a warrioress. I do not blame her for doing whatever it takes to put her physical safety first.

And anyeone that can only find space to 'criticise'.... I would say YOU are the one sending her back to the dishes. Or to the grave. Shame on you.

Crikey, that hit a nerve

I started laughing when - entirely without irony - you claimed that left wing movements attract “beta men”.

Right wing movements have historically been strongly associated with disaffected men who are failing in life. Those failing men are eager to latch on to false conservative narratives about men losing their traditional roles and status … because it explains away all of their personal failures as the consequence of outside forces.

You only have to look at Posie Parker’s posse to observe this. She is not surrounded by successful men - they are cosplayers who are LARPing as bodyguards. They are relishing the symbolic power of their openly carried guns and ‘tacticool’ clothing because they have no status or power of their own. It would be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic.

You know who I think isn't a feminist? Anyone who tries to delegitimize women who don't share their political opinions.

They hate Posie because she says in 3 words what they spent donkey's years trying to write.

I'm truly amazed at the fierce courage of the academic feminist keyboard warriors, putting in the long hours, in dangerous conditions in their own bedrooms as they type away and try to undermind KJK. Bravo to them! What wonderful work they are doing, they are definitely helping other women by their tireless smearing. I really hope they get their way and they make KJK shut up and go home and do the dishes like she ought to.

It does make you wonder who is fighting for whom here?

I WISH ALL THESE PEOPLE WOULD FIT INTO NICE LITTLE BOXES LABELLED 'LEFT' AND 'RIGHT' AND THEN WE COULD JUST HAVE GOODIES AND BADDIES AND IT COULD BE US VS THEM AND THE RIFT IN SOCIETY COULD LAST FOREVER!!!

damn these complex human beings.

Daryl Davies, I was just thinking about him @lechiffre55 and couldn't remember his name. What an example for all of us; that man is an inspiration!
we should talk to everyone

TERFs are increasingly turning to right-wing men to do security

Well yes, DUH, because I imagine that left-wing men in the U.S wouldn't really want to do it!!!

If violent men didn't all rally to close it down, she'd probably be taking her kids swimming this evening.

Speaking of swimming and a tangent I realise but I've got her Female, The Real Thing swimsuit and it's the best swimsuit I've ever had. Really good quality. She's got scarves in too...

Really gross attempt to smear PP.
Things get better by people talking, even to people who have different views.
Its possible to agree with a person on one point and disagree on many other points. Agreeing on one single point does not automatically mean you agree with them on everything.
Daryl Davies a black jazz musician dismantled the KKK in one US state by befriending them and asking them why they didn't like black people. Over time the KKK members he spoke to came to respect Daryl and many of them left the KKK including the grand wizard of one state. Would you have posted a picture of Daryl standing next to the KKK members he was having a dialogue with and tried to smear him for talking to the KKK? Really really disgusting.
To try and guild by association is intellectually dishonest and a really dirty attempt at a smear. It says far more about the person doing the smearing than it says about the person they are trying to smear.

No, of course not!

Would you tell Christians that they're not welcome at an equal pay protest? Or right wingers that they're not allowed to donate to Battersea dogs home?

That's how bloody relevant it is.

This ideology affects everybody. Not just Right Thinking People. Or, 'people who think like me'.

Honestly. Women across the political spectrum are fearful for their children under trans activism. All of them.

Posie wants to stop that. And, she has said she will talk to anyone.

That's Talk to anyone. Not be influenced by their political viewpoint. Not suddenly change her entire belief system because of what they believe. And not starting to agree with things that she's never agreed to before.

Does anyone seriously believe that people are only using retailers, service providers, tradesmen, whose opinion they all agree with? Of course you don't!

honestly, I can't believe people are saying all this crap in the name of 'tolerance'.

Sorry comebetweenus, this isn't meant to be a go at you. But these purity spirals are explicitly designed to stop women talking. It's not to help them, it's not to provide support for them, it's to shut them down.

Which optics? Presumably not the optics of the men surrounding and intimidating women, and even in one case breaking a woman's fingers?