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Some light relief in sport

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PurgatoryOfPotholes · 31/10/2022 21:18

The Boston Marathon has added a new non-binary category for runners. Great, right?

Except this is the comment from one parent of a runner who identifies as non-binary.

Ok....this will likely start a bunch of hateful comments but here goes: As the parent of a non-binary runner, I applaud the effort for inclusion. However, perhaps a more level playing field, specifically in sports, would be non-binary AMAB and non-binary AFAB. Just my 2 cents.

So the parent realises that non-binary females are disadvantaged by being placed in the same category as non-binary males, and wants it separated by... sex.

Read more about it here

Some light relief in sport
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Whatsnewpussyhat · 01/11/2022 11:58

The 'non binary' category is excellent for showing just how batshit it all is.

How narcissistic must you be to demand your own batshit category because you're much more special than all the other men and women.

They need to get over themselves and compete in their sex class like every other man and woman.

Chersfrozenface · 01/11/2022 10:36

GrabbyGabby · 01/11/2022 07:58

@noprivatespy i have been on these boards for many a year and i think i can safely say never have i ever seen anyone advocating for non binary categories in sport. You seem to be missing rather alot

Quite so.

Male and female categories. And if there those who insist they don't want to take part in sex-based categories, then either making the male category open to anyone, or having an additional third category called "open".

"non binary" is a nonsense.

MauisLeftNipple · 01/11/2022 08:48

Justme56 · 01/11/2022 08:30

Also interesting…

Oh, that is so weird that the NB times are the same as for the women. I wonder how they arrived at those 🙄

waterlego · 01/11/2022 08:38

NoPrivateSpy · 01/11/2022 07:14

Why are you so snarky about a non binary category? Isn't this what you wanted?

We want separate sporting categories for men and women. Apparently some gender ideologists do too. It’s just that they have to call it something different and pretend they were the ones who came up with the idea.

Justme56 · 01/11/2022 08:30

Also interesting…

Some light relief in sport
FrancescaContini · 01/11/2022 08:15

zanahoria · 31/10/2022 22:17

So non binaries are to be split into two binary categories?

Looks like it 😂 GI is eating itself…

Thanks for posting this.

ErrolTheDragon · 01/11/2022 08:12

NoPrivateSpy · 01/11/2022 07:14

Why are you so snarky about a non binary category? Isn't this what you wanted?

It's what we used to have. Sport divided by sex, not 'gender'. Male and female, fully inclusive.

GrabbyGabby · 01/11/2022 07:58

@noprivatespy i have been on these boards for many a year and i think i can safely say never have i ever seen anyone advocating for non binary categories in sport. You seem to be missing rather alot

Musomama1 · 01/11/2022 07:57

Beyond satire at this point. Thinking of that film Idiocracy.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 01/11/2022 07:52

NoPrivateSpy · 01/11/2022 07:14

Why are you so snarky about a non binary category? Isn't this what you wanted?

I think you'll find I said it was "great". I don't want male non-binaries jammed in to the female category, and I'm sick of seeing that happening.

We're noticing that people who have decried our need for female-only sport, and told us that women should just 'try harder', suddenly realising that the non-binary, mixed-sex race category they wanted will negatively impact their female relatives. Why is that not allowed?

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NecessaryScene · 01/11/2022 07:48

Why are you so snarky about a non binary category? Isn't this what you wanted?

We don't want it, because it's ridiculous. We believe all non-binaries should compete in their normal sexed category.

People are free to choose to compete in a mixed-sex "non-binary" category and self-exclude from the main categories if they want, but that doesn't stop the inevitable ridiculous consequence from being comical.

Non-binary is ridiculous, and anything based on being non-binary ends up being ridiculous.

Supporting your freedom of association doesn't mean we won't be snarky about what your association is/does.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 01/11/2022 07:33

loooool they’re so fucking dense light could bend round them 😆

who’d have thunk that male NB ppl would beat female NB ppl in a race. Why it’s almost as if biology actually fucking matters & you can’t identify out of it

NoPrivateSpy · 01/11/2022 07:14

Why are you so snarky about a non binary category? Isn't this what you wanted?

MrsJamin · 01/11/2022 07:05

They really will never be satisfied by special allowances will they, there's always more ways people should be making them feel special, accommodated, considered... Chicago marathon shouldn't have tried in the first place. And as for binary nonbinaries 😂 what an own goal!

waterwitch · 01/11/2022 06:17

Bump
just for anyone who hasn’t seen this, because you deserve a laugh
😂

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 01/11/2022 01:30

Maybe that's why the Chicago Marathon was so quiet about introducing the category.

One thing I keep asking? How come subscribers to gender identity philosophy are both insistent that we can't tell men and women apart, and also insistent that sex isn't immutable, and yet simultaneously adamant that they can tell whether someone was "assigned female/male at birth"? How do they know? Were they there? Grin

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Datun · 01/11/2022 01:21

Didn't anyone think when they made a sports category non-binary that it was going to highlight the binary like nothing else? How come nobody can think even five minutes into the future??

catandcoffee · 01/11/2022 01:11

😁honestly that statement

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 01/11/2022 01:02

Curiously, neither of the runners quoted in the Chicago piece linked above, share the concerns of the parent in my OP.

I think the images make it clear why not.

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ErrolTheDragon · 01/11/2022 00:54

GrumpyMenopausalWombWielder · 01/11/2022 00:29

AFABism

Perfect 🎯

Whoever is doing all this discriminatory assigning is just asking to get sued.

Datun · 01/11/2022 00:51

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 01/11/2022 00:29

Anyway, over to Chicago. @Datun may particularly (dis)like this one. I recommend you all click through on the link. It's the local paper, and there are pictures of the people complaining.

The Chicago Marathon has also introduced a new non-binary category, and people aren't happy.

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The Bank of America Chicago Marathon is one of the most prestigious races, drawing runners from around the globe. So when Cal Calamia heard that the race on Sunday had opened a nonbinary runner category for first time ever, they were ecstatic.

“It’s really exciting. It feels really good to choose nonbinary in my hometown race,” said Calamia, who does not identify as either male or female and uses the pronoun they.

But Calamia grew concerned when they realized there was no “elite” nonbinary division, as in the male and female races, or any finish line ribbon or monetary prize. Calamia then noticed there had been no public announcement to promote the division. [bold mine]

“Personally, it feels hurtful [bold mine] because it feels performative, or brushed under the rug, because it really is a big deal,” said Calamia, a teacher in San Francisco who grew up in Grayslake.

The Bank of America Chicago Marathon is the second major marathon in the country to open a division for nonbinary runners, following the New York City Marathon last year. Two other World Major Marathons, London and Boston, will host nonbinary divisions in their 2023 races.

The move to include nonbinary race divisions has been hailed as major progress by LGBTQ activists who have been pushing for races to be more inclusive. But some worry the changes are only superficial, made without public announcements that would welcome nonbinary runners. The Chicago marathon opened its first-ever nonbinary division without any statement to the media or public.

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It really makes me despair! These people are laughing stock.

GrumpyMenopausalWombWielder · 01/11/2022 00:29

AFABism

Perfect 🎯

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 01/11/2022 00:29

Anyway, over to Chicago. @Datun may particularly (dis)like this one. I recommend you all click through on the link. It's the local paper, and there are pictures of the people complaining.

The Chicago Marathon has also introduced a new non-binary category, and people aren't happy.

extract

The Bank of America Chicago Marathon is one of the most prestigious races, drawing runners from around the globe. So when Cal Calamia heard that the race on Sunday had opened a nonbinary runner category for first time ever, they were ecstatic.

“It’s really exciting. It feels really good to choose nonbinary in my hometown race,” said Calamia, who does not identify as either male or female and uses the pronoun they.

But Calamia grew concerned when they realized there was no “elite” nonbinary division, as in the male and female races, or any finish line ribbon or monetary prize. Calamia then noticed there had been no public announcement to promote the division. [bold mine]

“Personally, it feels hurtful [bold mine] because it feels performative, or brushed under the rug, because it really is a big deal,” said Calamia, a teacher in San Francisco who grew up in Grayslake.

The Bank of America Chicago Marathon is the second major marathon in the country to open a division for nonbinary runners, following the New York City Marathon last year. Two other World Major Marathons, London and Boston, will host nonbinary divisions in their 2023 races.

The move to include nonbinary race divisions has been hailed as major progress by LGBTQ activists who have been pushing for races to be more inclusive. But some worry the changes are only superficial, made without public announcements that would welcome nonbinary runners. The Chicago marathon opened its first-ever nonbinary division without any statement to the media or public.

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littlbrowndog · 01/11/2022 00:23

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 01/11/2022 00:22

At some point, someone should notice that treating male non-binaries and female non-binaries the same always seems to result in male bodies and male health needs being treated as default, and female specific needs being ignored. Someone should notice that this creates systematic, institutional discrimination, like females being driven out of sport. Perhaps someone could create a political movement to address female people being excluded. What would they call it?

Erm. Thinking

eek will have to go back in time

Datun · 01/11/2022 00:23

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 01/11/2022 00:22

At some point, someone should notice that treating male non-binaries and female non-binaries the same always seems to result in male bodies and male health needs being treated as default, and female specific needs being ignored. Someone should notice that this creates systematic, institutional discrimination, like females being driven out of sport. Perhaps someone could create a political movement to address female people being excluded. What would they call it?

AFABism?