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Starmer and his 99.9%

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bellinisurge · 31/10/2022 13:48

The Labour leader is desperately trying to stay on the fence with his 99.9% of women are biological women schtick.

He repeated it in the recent MN interview.

Let me be clear, as he is so fond of saying, 100% of women are biological women. And as long as you keep pandering to this alleged "0.1%", we will lose the language we need to describe us, and we will lose the right to single sex spaces. Women are a sex class. And any attempt to pretend otherwise will fall over at the first scrutiny. And you will lose the election because you have manufactured an existential crisis for women. Try harder.

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TheBiologyStupid · 01/11/2022 22:05

bellinisurge · 01/11/2022 22:02

This is about the 51%, not the alleged 0.01%

Absolutely. And since the TRAs hate him now anyway, he might as well stand up for the 51% - unambiguously and right now before it's too late.

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bellinisurge · 01/11/2022 22:02

This is about the 51%, not the alleged 0.01%

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bellinisurge · 01/11/2022 22:01

Starmer has to come off the fence sometime.

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mummywithtwokidsplusdog · 01/11/2022 22:00

I feel really let down by Labour, SNP and the greens .. biological sex and gender are not the same thing. Every cell in your body has a copy of your sex chromosomes - this is biological fact. I understand that some individuals will identify as female- that is clearly absolutely fine but their biological sex isn't changeable- you cannot change the chromosomes in every cell! ….everyone needs to understand and be at peace with that. %s is a nonsense and KS is intelligent enough to know that. As should all other politicians - after all half of their voters are biologically female!

FemaleAndLearning · 01/11/2022 21:58

TheBiologyStupid · 01/11/2022 21:21

"Biological women" is disliked by trans activists because it threatens their view that "transwomen are women" by pointing out a basic fact that they want to ignore.

A "dog whistle" is a word or phrase that sounds perfectly normal but allegedly contains a secret/hidden meaning that some opponents will hear and recognise. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_whistle_(politics)

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Thank you. So biological woman is secret code for saying not men who say they are women! My goodness that really is clutching at straws. Taking my language and making it offensive because it doesn't include them!

I agree Starmer is always sitting on the fence.

MarshaBradyo · 01/11/2022 21:50

That’s the thing though he can’t please both sides at the same time. By fudging it in the middle both get annoyed.

Pixiedust1234 · 01/11/2022 21:49

So both Mumsnet and Twitter are saying #downwithstarmer? And to think he only wanted biscuits with Justine. Poor, poor man 😥

TheBiologyStupid · 01/11/2022 21:21

FemaleAndLearning · 01/11/2022 20:34

I didn't realise 'biological women' was a dog whistle, what does that mean? To be honest I don't really understand dog whistles so someone tell me about them too please.

"Biological women" is disliked by trans activists because it threatens their view that "transwomen are women" by pointing out a basic fact that they want to ignore.

A "dog whistle" is a word or phrase that sounds perfectly normal but allegedly contains a secret/hidden meaning that some opponents will hear and recognise. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_whistle_(politics)

Blablablaaaaa · 01/11/2022 21:18

Yep, still not voting Labour, still not convinced.

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bellinisurge · 01/11/2022 21:12

To quote Posie "Your Mum's a Terf" 😂😂😂😂 #TwitterTrend

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Hepwo · 01/11/2022 21:02

Mumsnet is trending on Twitter! They hate us! They hate everyone and everything 🙄

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bellinisurge · 01/11/2022 20:44

Biological women is a person who was observed female at birth, the one with the large gametes and the DNA that transwomen can never have.

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FemaleAndLearning · 01/11/2022 20:34

I didn't realise 'biological women' was a dog whistle, what does that mean? To be honest I don't really understand dog whistles so someone tell me about them too please.

FemaleAndLearning · 01/11/2022 20:32

A few screenshots. The one saying Mumsnet (what the whole site) can't attack Starmer now! They haven't found this thread yet!

Starmer and his 99.9%
Starmer and his 99.9%
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Asdavaluesausage · 01/11/2022 20:23

Live4weekend · 01/11/2022 20:20

I don't think that's a bad thing.

Their demands are extreme. They are dangerous for woman and children and they are not what the moderates in this country will accept.

The more people become aware the more they are unlikely to achieve anything.

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Indeed, I think they’re shooting themselves in the foot with their no compromise stance. Which is awesome to watch. The batshittery is becoming more obvious every day.

FemaleAndLearning · 01/11/2022 20:20

Well if they start hating on Labour who will they have left on their 'side'. Let them self implode!

Live4weekend · 01/11/2022 20:20

Asdavaluesausage · 01/11/2022 20:16

The TRA are making it very clear there can be compromise aren’t they? Not even the slightest deviation from their demands.

I don't think that's a bad thing.

Their demands are extreme. They are dangerous for woman and children and they are not what the moderates in this country will accept.

The more people become aware the more they are unlikely to achieve anything.

Asdavaluesausage · 01/11/2022 20:16

The TRA are making it very clear there can be compromise aren’t they? Not even the slightest deviation from their demands.

ScribblingPixie · 01/11/2022 20:12

Twitter! I just saw Mumsnet described as "a semi-fascist internet forum". The TRAs are very upset that Keir Starmer has spoken to the site.

FemaleAndLearning · 01/11/2022 20:04

I think they just throw Gillick around without knowing what it actually means. Someone on his thread said that because of Kiera Bell's lawyer Gillick is at threat.

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bellinisurge · 01/11/2022 20:01

"Life saving" puberty blockers and all that stuff. Any parent who refuses to put their child on them is an abuser. Gillick (I was around when that happened) is about letting young girls access the Pill . Which is not the same kind of meds at all.

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Live4weekend · 01/11/2022 19:26

I'm not sure why they are talking about Gillik Competency when there is no medical intervention.

Or are Owen and his cronies not really talking about social transition as they claim to be.

DodoPatrol · 01/11/2022 19:09

Owen the non parent is telling parents how to parent.

Maybe he identifies as a parent?

FemaleAndLearning · 01/11/2022 19:07

Owen is bringing up Gillick. A Gender GP therapist is chipping in saying that social transition is good as it helps make a care plan. They are trying to say this is Starmer's belief not the party line.

Live4weekend · 01/11/2022 18:39

bellinisurge · 01/11/2022 15:35

Oo, tbe TRAs have spotted Starmer's "no medical intervention without parental consent ". Wonder what he'll do when he sees how the slightest deviation from The Word gets you trashed by the TRAs.

Owen the non parent is telling parents how to parent.
Despicable bully of a man.

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