Legal change could make Scotland into a trans haven

That website linked above is a fucking racist homophobic mess. Seriously, read some of it.
It also talks about "transphobes" "deliberately endangering the lives of young trans people and children".
Oh, hang on........is it US who want to halt their puberty, lop off their healthy body parts, tell them they are in the wrong body and pump them full of dangerous chemicals that will impact their whole future life? My mistake.

"Man", "Woman" and "Non-binary person" are social/cultural statuses. Trans people have existed for millennia throughout history and in every part of the world. Consequently, trans people have as much right to claim their genders based on biology or otherwise as cis people do"

Biology denial at its finest.
And utter bollocks.

Man and woman are social or cultural? How many men are on the labour ward? How many women are in the prostate cancer ward?

If you're going to try to pick a website to support your claims, try not to pick one that makes you (and them) sound like deranged lunatics.

I don't support Scotland changing its laws and I was glad when PM Theresa May decided not to change the laws in England on this. I am sure sense will ultimately prevail.

Yes.
And two out of those 14 or 15 "facts" on the list are STILL harping on about "intersex" people.
Honestly, don't these people have any other arguments?

"BEcause........intersex!!!!"

So fucking boring.

I'm surprised seahorses and clownfish aren't on the list.

Those aren't facts so what is your point?

Reminds me of the ‘friendly’ match at the end of the 8 year olds football training season

a bunch of dads tackling 8 year olds, scoring obscene amounts of goals and then strutting round the pitch like they’d actually won something

fucking embarrassing

its like when my dad was chuffed when he beat ds1 at chess…ds1 was 6!

hard to say. the fat #10 looks like he could probably play a bit, 20+ years and 20+ kilos ago; and the #17 looks young and slim enough to be dominate at this level despite probably never having been good enough to play for a men's team; but the others look like complete nonentities by men's football standards, not fit, not good, not young, but just, with a couple of better players alongside them, able to steamroll a bunch of girls who are just playing for laugh and who probably barely average even 100 hours of playground football experience per head.

How the fuck can someone be proud of that

How DARE you tell people to move because they don't subscribe to your gender fairy ideology

exactly

If you don’t like it leave the county gets said a lot by certain people, was all over the brexit threads for example…and ‘political’ threads 🤔

1930s Germany. Jesus wept! Do you even hear yourself.

Stop. Appropriating. The. Holocaust.

Why should I uproot my kids and myself and move away from my parents because the country I have lived all my life has been captured by dangerous gender twaddle?

failing to adequately protect females is not “progressive “ nor is permitting vulnerable under 18s to partake in GR practices

Margarine??? Damn autocucumber

Thank goodness for New Zealand. I hear its beautiful, I hope your friend is very happy there, Margarine.

HootyMcboob Damn straight. Exactly this.

I suppose that's correct if your definition of unsafe is nasty words (as opposed to, say, going around without a headscarf in Iran)

Scotland and the rest of the UK have a long way to go before being safe for transpeople.

A British transwomen was given asylum in NZ where she will be safe.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/british-transgender-woman-asylum-new-zealand-granted-safer-a7996846.html

Big hands are definitely not an advantage when you've got a tricky lambing! Smaller the better, at least from the sheep's point of view...

yeah, I'm not sure what there's anything really sensible that I can say about it.

All those transwomen with man-sized hands are going to need bigger Fair Isle knitted gloves to keep warm in the Scottish winter, therefore creating employment for traditional crafters. Nice work, Nicola.

100% cannot tell if that is satire or not, puffy.

on the positive side, recent footage from the Scottish ladies' Premier League is suggestive some exciting, high scoring games ...⚽

"Maybe all the nasty people that hate trans people should move out of scotland if they don’t like how progressive it’s becoming?"

A short note. Most people in Scotland cannot just 'move out of Scotland'. Houses here are far cheaper than they are in the rUK.

This is why we have had a big influx of people selling up in England and moving into Scotland. The same thing can't happen in reverse.

It slightly reminds me of someone suggesting that Xhosa people in South Africa should have just 'moved out of South Africa' if they didn't like the new colonists arriving and taking over.

Lets spell it out its poor women in Edinburgh, Midlothian and East Lothian who have to use the shoddy services of Edinburgh Rape Crisis which will not give women - women only trauma care after rape. Middle class women will pay for private counselling. Middle class women will go to private gyms where they don't have to change and shower next to men as you have to in Edinburgh Leisure. And its poor women who end up in jail and will have to have men pretending to be women in their spaces because they want a cushy time in jail and lots of victims handily around.

"It doesn't cost anything to be nice....."

The problem in a nutshell. Perhaps if you're white, middle-class, heterosexual, happily married, lead a generally comfortable life, it doesn't cost you anything to be nice.

The people at the sharp end of this are vulnerable women: those in prison, using rape crisis centres, fleeing home to live in a domestic violence shelter, or lesbians wanting a safe space to meet other lesbians. It's not surprising that the majority of women supporting the rights of men to enter women's spaces are white and middle-class because they know, or at least believe, that they will never share a prison cell with a violent rapist or flee traumatised to a domestic violence shelter to be confronted by a man who walks around with his dick out. Quite easy to congratulate yourself on how "nice" you are and let other women bear the brunt.

Same here. I'm ashamed of my government.

Someone telling me to move away from my home...........well, it's just a modern day highland clearance, isn't it?

"It doesn't cost anything to be nice....."

That's where you're wrong. A lot, if not most of us, started off with exactly that attitude. Be kind. Be nice. Be accepting. Be accomodating.
Until that wasn't enough anymore and we were forced to change our language, forced to accept males in women's spaces, forced to give up our privacy and dignity. Forced to acknowledge a legal and social fiction that males can be women in EVERY way. It is never enough. Unless you capitulate 100% and deny even biology and reality, then you are a "transphobe" and a "bigot". We've heard the trope "they just want to PEE, they just want to live a QUIET life" time and time again. It's not enough that they want to use our spaces, they want us to applaud them for doing it.

"Maybe all the nasty people that hate trans people should move out of scotland if they don’t like how progressive it’s becoming?"

As a Scot living in Scotland, all I can say to this is, I am a proud Scot, I love my country, but I HATE what this ideology is doing to it. I have no intention of moving ANYWHERE and I will continue to fight for the safety and privacy of my two daughters.
How DARE you tell people to move because they don't subscribe to your gender fairy ideology! Because they don't want to see children sterilized, mutilated with unnecessary surgeries, sacrifice their safety to males who WILL AND HAVE taken advantage of the law to gain access to women's spaces, give up their hard won rights, job opportunities, sporting opportunities etc.

I don't subscribe to your religion of gender. How dare you try to impose your shite on other people and then tell THEM to leave if they don't like it?
As for "progressive"? - any normal person will still know what a man and what a woman is. However "progressive" you think the country is becoming, THAT will never change, and I believe people will rise up and challenge this utter bullshit when they see exactly what is will mean for our country and the safety of women.