Janice Turner about Eddie Izzard

Igneococcus · 2022-10-28T21:07:54+00:00

"There’s more to womanhood than high heels" (I don't even own any at all): https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/8d12b9de-56fa-11ed-a03e-f7ac672386f7?shareToken=c066df7bda443d1134b7d63217618a15

Datun · 30/10/2022 04:35

verastan · 29/10/2022 09:25

She must defo be a mumsnetter!

*On Thursday night I posted this! If only the women in Iran currently being killed had just taken a leaf out of Eddie's book and worn different shoes so that they were no longer female.

If only the girls in Afghanistan being denied an education could have realised all they had to do was to switch to "boy mode".

So fucking insulting to pretend that womanhood is a costume you can identify in and out of when so many women and girls around the world are oppressed based on their biology and can do no such thing.

It makes me sick.*

On the EI thread.

Then last night Janice writes this in the times. Just saying.......you're welcome Janice

Crikey Verastan, you should write! One of our top journalists has borrowed your words because of your insight and the way you articulate it.

Deadcatsboneytale · 29/10/2022 22:27

WomenShouldWinWomensSports · 28/10/2022 22:23

Perhaps Iranian protesters defying compulsory hijabs, girls in Afghanistan fighting for an education or mothers experiencing terrible maternity care in British hospitals should all just switch into “boy mode” when reality gets too much. I’m sure the Taliban would understand.
Yes. Absolutely this. Women aren't allowed to identify out of sex-based repression and men never identify out of sex-based power and privilege.

This in spade’s

FannyCann · 29/10/2022 22:16

Whippet · 29/10/2022 12:15

Just a tip for anyone with a willing student family member, or a .ac.uk email - you can get a student subscription to The Times for £1.99 month.
You'll need a Student Beans account.

www.thetimes.co.uk/subscribe/student/

Thanks @Whippet
I didn't know and I've been thinking I really need to cut back on subscriptions.

totalnamechanger · 29/10/2022 20:08

Janice has been influencing this board for many years. She helped me get it.

Weezol · 29/10/2022 19:52

So Eddie, what about all the people
in the world who don't have any shoes at all? How should they 'identify'?

Middledazedted · 29/10/2022 19:42

I lived in Sheffield a good while ago but it was then and I imagine it is now a very interesting and proud city. I can only imagine the locals giving very short shift to his self aggrandising claims when compared to local political representatives. Hugely dickish things to say about local councillors and the city.

WandaWomblesaurus · 29/10/2022 18:44

A lot of red flags really.
Who is Eddie trying to prove themselves to?
Who is Eddie running away from.

Smilelesstalkmore · 29/10/2022 18:24

MrsJamin · 29/10/2022 16:40

The "join the 21st century" message aimed at Rosie duffield has angered me SO much today. Do women's rights belong in the last century, Eddie? I think we are going to see this nastier side of EI a lot more in the coming months. He's going to show his true misogynistic colours.

What a load of disingenous BOLLOCKS (literally).

Forna start, Eddie Izzard did not 'come out as a transwoman in 1985'. In fact he is on record years ago saying 'these are not women's clothes, these are my clothes, I bought them'.

Women are offended by your 'boy mode/girl mode' sexist regressive crap Eddie, and your complete disregard for the dignity of women by using female toilets. Deal with it.

I agree that we are going to see a nastier side to him, especially when he is being egged on by his fellow misogynists.

zanahoria · 29/10/2022 18:15

"I've a feeling that line about not being a "supercharged local councillor" might be his downfall"

and the bit about wanting to put Sheffield on the map

MrsJamin · 29/10/2022 16:40

The "join the 21st century" message aimed at Rosie duffield has angered me SO much today. Do women's rights belong in the last century, Eddie? I think we are going to see this nastier side of EI a lot more in the coming months. He's going to show his true misogynistic colours.

RobinStrike · 29/10/2022 15:06

For anyone interested in a Times Online subscription there is a sale on

www.thetimes.co.uk/subscribe/digital-octsale/

CoraggioCara · 29/10/2022 14:32

After years of deliberation I've now subscribed to the Times. Janice Turner is wonderful.

XanaduKira · 29/10/2022 13:28

That's very true @FrancescaContini

I feel the same about everyone who says 'woman' is a feeling and that they're definitely one & should be treated as such.

BlackAlys · 29/10/2022 13:28

@FrancescaContini oh yes. Well said.

FrancescaContini · 29/10/2022 13:23

Smilelesstalkmore · 28/10/2022 23:56

She has nailed it as always.

Also, I have learnt a new word tonight, peccadillo - I'm definitely going to start using that!

Thanks for the share token.

Pink-nailed it, perhaps?!

I also ❤️ Janice. I wish EI would fuck off to Iran or Afghanistan with his high heels and glitter and see how “girl mode” is received there. I’m sure he’d switch back pretty rapidly to “boy mode”.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 29/10/2022 13:18

”Eddie Izzard: sometimes girl mode, sometimes boy mode, always total cock mode.”

Oh you could not have put that better, @EsmaCannonball - you win MN today, in my opinion! I will remember that whenever Eddie Izzard is mentioned.

RoyalCorgi · 29/10/2022 13:16

I may well Get around to ditching the Graun and switching to the Times within the next couple of months now (am just a bit slow, have been meaning to do it for the last two years 😬).

Go for it. I did it some time ago and have no regrets. Now that Hadley Freeman is leaving the Guardian for the Sunday Times there's even less reason to stick with the Guardian.

zanahoria · 29/10/2022 13:12

Grown men like Eddie and Dylan going on about being girls is not cute nor tweet .... It is damn right creepy. Guy

Whippet · 29/10/2022 12:15

Just a tip for anyone with a willing student family member, or a .ac.uk email - you can get a student subscription to The Times for £1.99 month.
You'll need a Student Beans account.

www.thetimes.co.uk/subscribe/student/

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Igneococcus · 29/10/2022 12:09

Thanks everyone for links and examples. I'll make a cup fo tea and start watching.

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turbonerd · 29/10/2022 12:08

What an excellent article!
I may well Get around to ditching the Graun and switching to the Times within the next couple of months now (am just a bit slow, have been meaning to do it for the last two years 😬).

I don’t have girl mode either. Funny that. Allthough a marine biologist in my country went on telly to tell us that clown fish and other crustaceans such as shrimp DO change their sex. So I am identifying as a shrimp lately, then will let nature just take its course and I don’t even have to pay attention to what I identify any further than that. A bit lazy, me.

But it has solved clothing, shoes and hairdo issues as no-one knows what a shrimp would wear, so I Get away with wearing what I like.
If anyone wants to join and can be bothered to think of a slogan please do. We will also need a flag apparently, but no need to rush on anything.

RobinStrike · 29/10/2022 11:47

Janice Turner is brilliant. Recently joined MN and listened to the interview with Justin Webb. I noticed he cited JT as an influence on media interest and changing attitudes on women and trans issues.

unwashedanddazed · 29/10/2022 11:33

Great article. Thanks for the share token, much appreciated.

teawamutu · 29/10/2022 11:27

I ditched the Guardian and subscribed to the Times because of Janice Turner.

Unbelievably, she's getting better and better. I suspect as she gets angrier. It's beautiful 😁

Arnaquer · 29/10/2022 10:59

@verastan you've been plagiarised!