To feel incredibly sorry for Eddie Izzard

You know what I hate about this post? I hate how it's an attack on Rosie Duffield thinly disguised as kindness and empathy.

Why even bring her into your strange pastime of feeling sorry for Eddie Izzard? Very few people will ever see Eddie as a woman, you could feel sorry for him all day long without specifically naming a woman that you appear to feel is being mean to him. It's almost like the real goal of the post isn't to performatively sympathise with Eddie, but to sneakily attack Rosie Duffield.

Didn't work, but I still don't like it. 🙅

Why has thiS thread been moved here from AIBU???

Rather!

How many of those ‘women’s’ officers in political parties or universities have been a woman for more than a few months when they stand for election?

It is a well known route to influence policy making.

Maybe we should all mass report ourselves for knowing Eddie is a man?

All hand ourselves in at the local police station on the same day at the same time?

As a woman speaking from Scotland where the Gender Reform Bill is being passed as we speak, I can categorically say that I will NEVER say Izzard and others like him are women.
Reserve your "pity" for the women and girls who are being totally fucked over with this ideology, ad who now have literally ZERO protection and rights to single sex safe spaces.
All a man has to do now is utter the magic words, and he can waltz into any space he wants.
Izzard thinks womanhood is like a coat that you can put on and take off again when it suits you, or when the job demands it, or when you feel like it.
Izzard is, was, and always will be a male.

Reserve your pity for the women like me in Scotland and their daughters, who are being shafted by their own Government and pushed down the pecking order of rights just so that some confused or even predatory men can access women and girls that little bit easier.

I will be dragged away kicking and screaming to the re-education camp before I EVER say that Izzard and men like him are women.

This!! Thank you for articulating how I feel so clearly @Birdsweepsin

Just like every single trans "women's officer" in Labour, who use it as a validation opportunity and a platform for trans rights activism.

As if Eddie's going into politics to spend hours reading emails about hospital facilities, parking restrictions and bin collections. Hopefully the people of Sheffield realise this.

What @teawamutu said

So nice that Eddie proudly tells the story of how Eddie confronted several 13-year-old girls who questioned Eddie's presence in the Ladies.

Eddie is just another entitled misogynist that thinks real women are props in his fantasy.

Don't waste your sympathy, OP.

oh well, the more of this kind of thing is in the mainstream press, the more people will see it for what it is.

In general i think people have sympathy for and with trans-people, men and women, but i also think there is a huge misunderstanding of what they actually are, if you see what i mean. Most people i've ever talked to about it in RL who have been TWAW are unaware of the biological reality of "lady dick". (not that i talk about it a lot, it doesn't really impact my life much at all)

I don't have issues around toilets, changing rooms etc, but i know other people do. So i appreciate there are tensions. And i will support single-sex spaces and go against ridiculous gender sterreotypes to my dying day.

I also don't see the problem with waiting 2 years for a GRC. Sure, you want it asap. But it's just a reinforcement that you really really want it. So if you are a 40 year old transwoman and have felt like this all your life, 2 years essentially living as a woman with people supporting you to do that, isn't that much to ask, IMO. It really does weed out the chancers.

Back to EI - my biggest disappointment is the rewriting history. He always was just EI in a dress. And now it's being retrofitted to "have always been a woman". That is disappointing because it drags us back to gender stereotypes. i wonder if EI ever wears trousers, just jeans and a hoodie, in "girl mode".

Eddie is a man. As a very funny, transvestite comedian he had a huge amount of support worldwide. He did a lot for charity.

Then Stonewall took a chainsaw to the dictionary. They opened up an umbrella called trans so that now Eddie fits under it.

As a good and honest and decent bloke, he could have used his unique situation for the good of everyone.

But no, he chose to use this dismantling of reality to feather his own nest, but in an even more egregious way than most TRAs - by claiming male privilege AND the right to female spaces.

And in so doing he has lost the love and respect of millions. Especially me.

What really gets me is all these ‘intelligent’ and ‘progressive’ people who say they are all for womens rights and equality but always put feelings of a man over the feelings, safety, dignity and comfort of women. Still waiting for someone to explain how this whole shitshow is not a mens rights movement.

mrshoho

"Yes, for decades he was a man/male who liked to paint his finger nails, wear heels and put on a skirt. That was absolutely fine and no-one raised an eyebrow."

I suspect that no one raising an eyebrow is the issue. Hard to be all edgy and the centre of attention when no one gives a shit.

Pathetic piece by Harriet Williamson -

www.independent.co.uk/voices/eddie-izzard-pronouns-rosie-duffield-labour-b2209204.html

I particularly liked 'Duffield previously called trans women male bodied biological men'. Eh no shit Sherlock 🙄

Jean Hatchet bellowing sense now on lbc.

It was cursedE. A nasty misogynistic prick encouraging his followers to report us all. Had an account on here. Got banned repeatedly.

Yes. MNHQ essentially admitted it back in the day, and many of the monitors like to brag on Twitter about shutting down the women of FWR, and exhort their followers to do the same while pointing out you don’t have to be a member to report.

I’d link to or screenshot such a tweet, but the fragile little darling who I remember seeing tweet along those lines blocked me when I challenged them. It was well over a year ago now so I can’t remember their username (mind you, thanks to menopause brain fog I can barely remember my own name - do you think I can identify out of that? 🤔) IIRC I’d followed a link from here after someone posted about it. I don’t recall it being any of the “big name” TRAs but beyond that…🤷🏻‍♀️

‘Incredibly sorry’

🤣🤣

overreact much?

eddie’s fine, stand down

Then I can’t understand why you want people to pretend to believe a male person is female. You clearly see the danger to women and children. So why support it?

Genuine question, by the way.

I'm fairly sure you have to be a member to report threads, so I'm going to go with no.

MNHQ allows non-members to report via Twitter, possibly email too, not sure about that.

He knows what he's doing. He's standing against a woman of colour and saying she's a "supercharged local councillor" but he's more effective because "international". Literally smashing down at a woman for devoting herself to a city rather than dripping his privilege around the world as a celebrity and millionaire.

this is the biggest point for me in all this. I have friends who live in this ward and they all support Rosie, she knows what is what there, and is absolutely in tune to their needs and wants. I think the same about all candidates parachuted into somewhere from outside for publicity, so this isn't anti EI who is generally a good egg.

What does "international" bring to the table for that part of Sheffield? What they are concerned about is the same as everyone in Sheffield: the problem with the rough sleepers, agressive beggars/drug addicts, the fact that the city centre is dead and unattractive, how to get around town (cars being edged out makes it difficult for shopping for some people despite the little free bus), housing, rubbish collections, the vast amount of student accommodation going up.... So much going on there. Is he going to be concerned with all that?

I'm fairly sure you have to be a member to report threads, so I'm going to go with no.

Or her or they

There are more threads about MiLs and abusive DHs on any one day than on this subject - don't see them being shuffled off to their corners.

You said upthread you only care about Izzard's policies for Sheffield. How do you feel about a rich white celeb, using a lifetime of white male privilege, now citing that privilege to push out a local woman of colour who has worked for the constituency without the benefit of fame, money, whiteness or male privilege?