To feel incredibly sorry for Eddie Izzard

I bet if he went to Afghanistan or Iran he wouldn’t be in ‘girl mode’ what a shame it isn’t that easy for the biological women who live there

Is Eddie a woman though ? No

I genuinely just wish it was socially acceptable for men to wear dresses, pretty clothes and make up if they so wished, and then perhaps we wouldn’t be where we are now. Clothes and expression have no gender, bodies do.

But he isn't. He can identify all he likes but nobody is obliged to go along with anything.

He can dress how he likes, some people will happily call him she, but he is male. Always will be. That reality is hard for some people to accept but that doesn't mean we are all wrong for not wanting our language controlled and not being willing to lie.

If Eddie is a woman then why wouldn't 'she' go in the women's changing rooms - really OP you can't have it both ways.

Probably goes into man mode when negotiating his pay.

Me too. I tried to be in boy mode but my period didn't get the memo.

This!

I don't care what his pronouns are. He's just desperate for attention and has worked out that this is the way to get it. Interesting that he still does male acting roles. Probably gets higher pay for them. I used to be a big fan but I've totally gone off him now.

I feel sorry for Eddie.
I don't want to have to encounter men (i.e. people with penis) in my changing room.
That's fine, surely?

Oh come on, OP. Do better.

I was looking at the criteria for getting a GRC in Scotland today. You have to live as a woman for 3 months. I wonder how you do that (I have read the ways you can do that and I'm... not going there)

So I'm thinking, prancing round in a frock with red lippy is maybe it? But I've been a woman for nearly 60 years and i literally never do that. I watch football, drink beer, eat pizza, burp, fart, live in docs and jeans, i have short hair and don't own red lippy. I used to like high heels until my bunions said "nope" to that. I like wearing fancy hats to weddings (with a trouser suit).

I have listened to EI speaking and the content is the same whichever mode EI is in. So I'm confused about what the actual mode is. Is it about their clothes? because that's not what defins someones sex or gender.

EI is getting a shit ton of publicity - performers love that, politicians love that, it's a win-win here for Eddie. So why feel sorry for EI?

Please stay. I think you’re at the point a lot of people start out at, wanting to be kind and feeling sorry for someone but obviously not wanting to share a changing room/toilet. Then learning that actually this is exactly what this ideology leads to and being shocked, and then maybe rethinking the idea that people like Rosie Duffield are being mean. In my opinion it’s legitimate concerns and questions that need to be discussed, and we all need to stay in the room to discuss them.

Kanye W is always unwell when he has something to promote, I’ve noticed..

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so did I - wasn;t in 'boy mode' though so still a biological woman

Eddie Izzard was a brilliant comic, back in the days of 'these aren't womens clothes, these are my clothes, I bought them'.

Nobody cared what he wore, how he styled his hair (although I honestly think it suited him better short), if he wore make up or not.

Being who he actually was back then was one of the best things about him & I had respect for him being that person.

I wouldn't even have cared if he'd got a boob job & still continued being Eddie.

Now, he is appropriating my sex, expecting to walk into the womens toilets, making a mockery of all women everywhere in a way I find deeply offensive & I'd rather go to prison than share a female space with him.

I have no respect for him jumping on the bandwagon to steal the rights of half the worlds population.

Kanye W is always unwell when he has something to promote, I’ve noticed..

or when he goes a bit Nazi

Eddie can dress how he likes. I’m all for people not conforming to gender stereotypes.
I wore DMs, jeans and a checked shirt today. No make up. I’m definitely still a woman though.

Eddy is a man ffs. He has a cock, and is actually a bit of a cock tbh.

Never will I say “She has a penis” (like the Daily Fail did in reference to a man in a dress the other day) other than in this sentence as an example.

Wtf did you hope to achieve with this thread, OP? Again, if you have a penis you are a man or a boy. Hth.

@TooBigForMyBoots

Kanye W is always unwell when he has something to promote, I’ve noticed..

Eddie isn't a woman. He's an eccentric man. Why is that so controversial.

I'm with Rosie.

So you want to call Eddie a woman but not actually treat him as a woman in any meaningful way?

why do you think that’s any ‘nicer’ than simply being honest that you don’t believe he’s a woman?

Does he need your pity @ColdstreamAnnie? He's a well educated, wealthy celebrity. I'm sure he'll be fine.

I feel a bit sorry for Kanye West. He's clearly unwell at the minute.

OP why don't you team up with Lorraine Kelly. You go girl!

Please define a woman. The legal definition.

I'm not aware he has either. And like you I don't think he's very insistent on pronouns.

This feels like trying to start an argument over fuck all, to be honest.

Eddie is a biological male. Therefore a man. He feels feminine sometimes and enjoys expressing his feminine side. All fine and dandy.

Go for it Eddie - you do look good in bright colours. And you can look and sound feminine. And you are a brilliant comedian in my eyes. And you will probably be a very good politician. But you are also a man.