To feel incredibly sorry for Eddie Izzard

I didn't know the government could force us to believe in that.

Eddie is a man he can girl mode all he wants but nothing can change the fact he is a man.

Go Rosie!!!

I'm disappointed in Eddie tbh. I loved who he was before. Just a man who loved to dress however he pleased with nothing else behind it. Now he's gone down this route. It's so tedious.

yep. hard agree here. It was great to see someone like EI more or less picking up where Bowie and some of the wilder New Romantics left off. Wearing "clothes" because they were fab. Nail varnish, whatever. Oh well. I suppose we have people like Harry Styles for that now. Younger and more relevant, EI is ageing, i suppose something had to happen to get those last few years of spotlight in.

Is he coming into the changing room penis first?

Eddie Izzard is a man. It is entirely rational not to colude with him in his delusions to the contrary.

I certainly do not feel sorry for Eddie. and I have no doubt that Eddie isn’t remotely interested in what Rosie or any other women think about all this.

Exactly. It’s all male ego and eccentricity.

He's not a woman, he's a bloke.

he (or she) seems like a nice person.

A nice person wouldn't infiltrate womens spaces and womens toilets and make other vulnerable women feel uncomfortable. Only a selfish entitled misogynistic male with male privilege would even thinking of encroaching on women like that. He is not nice, he is nasty and vicious.

Not that I've seen or that Google can tell me, but I'm happy to be corrected.

He promulgated the worst of gender stereotypes when he says he’s in girl mode.

Have you not read his quotes.

He uses ladies, single sex, loos.

He was proud of scaring some young girls in a public toilet years ago whilst being his authentic self.

Yeah, he can fuck right off.

And I totally agree that gender stereotypes are regressive and no neither sex any favours.

YABU.

At the same time, broadly I feel sympathetic to many individual people getting personally caught up in heated debates. I can understand a spasm of pity from this perspective. But actually for me, still no, because Izzard has inexplicably sought this particular limelight. I'm disappointed as I celebrated him as a GNC man, and I find it quite weird that Izzard doesn't particularly seem to take Izzard's own femaleness too seriously, but the new religion insists that we must all take it terribly terribly seriously no matter what. 'People are who they say they are' and all that.

I hugely admire Rosie. She's been very brave when few others in her profession can say the same.

I’m with Rosie 100%
I certainly do not feel sorry for Eddie. and I have no doubt that Eddie isn’t remotely interested in what Rosie or any other women think about all this.
I’m completely confused by their choice to stand as a female M.P. I hear in a recent interview they said they liked to switch between “girl mode” and “boy mode” so how is it that they have now landed on female as their choice for election? And why? Does that mean when in “boy mode” they won’t in fact be an elected M.P.? Until they switch to “girl mode” again? have they now settled for the
foreseeable as “girl mode”
also what’s going on with girl mode? shouldn’t it be woman mode?
So so bored of all this. I’d really like to see Labour support women, reinstate all women short lists, so that women can have some decent proper representation by people who fully know and understand the lived experiences of women and girls in this country.
Labour are fools if they think this won’t negatively impact the next election, the race is by no means run. I’m an ex Liverpudlian Labour voter because of all this. And I won’t be selling my teenage daughter’s rights down the Swanny for Kier Starmer.

I’ve been here a long time and have read a lot of stuff that has helped me understand this situation, but to be fair I think a lot of us have admitted that ops position is where we started out. We’ve had years of coming to terms with what it all means and are rightly angry when an op like this is posted. But I can see how it can look to a newcomer like we’re just angry and harsh. I think op is so close to understanding why we’re cross (unless they’re just a troll). Everything people are saying on this thread seems obvious and straight forward common sense to me now, but I can see how it could seem radical to someone who is quite new to understanding why women are struggling with calling Eddie ‘she’.

Hasn’t he just reported an mp to the police for misgendering him?

I’d love to know what “girl mode” is. Can we also take off and put on our biological sex when it suits us? Or is it just biological men who have this privilege?

I agree with Rosie too. I don't give one flying fuck if people with penises want to wear stereotypical 'feminine' clothing or makeup, or high heels, or have long hair, or have their nails done, or whatever is considered feminine. I just don't care.

But if you developed in your mothers womb with XY chromosomes it determined your sex.. you were bestowed with male genitals, male hormones and a male body structure. You are a man. By all means, if a man feels more comfortable in a dress and heels and enjoys makeup, I just don't give a shiny shit. Genuinely, I'm not bothered. It's just clothes.

But.men stomped out women's rights with their masculinity for fucking years with their overpowering physical violence and dominance. But thanks to our ancestors, it is being bit-by-bit beaten back. But now they've found a new way...now they want to stomp all over us again by being male but 'identifying' as female. But only as & when it suits them.

Trying to out perform women in womens sport. Attacking women in their womens-only spaces. Even claiming 'woman of the year' awards!

No, sorry. They can wear and act however they feel. But men aren't women. And they don't get to decide when they want to enjoy mens rights and when they want to feel the plight of women's woes.

I'm disappointed in Eddie tbh. I loved who he was before. Just a man who loved to dress however he pleased with nothing else behind it. Now he's gone down this route. It's so tedious.

Eddie is an ambassador for an ideology that claims you can choose to be male, female, both or neither, based on social stereotypes and emotions. It's regressive and counter-feminist. Eddie gets no sympathy from me.

Exactly.
He was a gender bender - wore ‘women’s clothes’ or as he rightly said ‘my clothes’

Now look at the state of him.

He even jogs with his fake tits on!

Even my own mum doesn’t wear her fake boobs unless she’s out and about and wants her clothes to hang better (double mastectomy in case anyone is wondering).

I used to see Eddie regularly where I worked in the 90’s. He absolutely relished dressing up, heels nails, make up the whole works. He also was always clear that he is male and men could wear what the hell they liked. Good for him. He got a lot of attention and it made him stand out in his career as a comedian and a ‘personality’.

This recent phase of calling himself a woman appears to be getting attention too. Same old Eddie, new shiny pronouns and another bite of the publicity cherry.

Eddie is a man. I will never refer to him as a woman, ever.

There so many other things to be saddened by. I'd feel quite differently if this were a young person going through a crisis but I think he's quite self assured.

Ya poor Eddie. It's so unfair we won't all say he's a woman! SO UNFAIR!

But I have to ask again, when has he demanded to be called a woman? Or demand that people use she/her pronouns for him?

Why is that a shame?

What is a shame are these hoards
of men who expect others to collude in their delusion that they are a woman, and get mad when people don’t go along with it.

‘I’m in girl mode from now on’…yeah, ok geezer!

Once a man, still a man, always a man!