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To feel incredibly sorry for Eddie Izzard

559 replies

ColdstreamAnnie · 27/10/2022 20:31

I don't want to pity Eddie but I felt a wave of sadness after reading that Rosie Duffield (MP) said she would rather be arrested than refer to Eddie as a woman.

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borogovia · 27/10/2022 22:36

I don't feel more sorry for him, by a long long way, but I do feel a litle bit sorry for him.

Ndd135632 · 27/10/2022 22:32

Why for living Christ do women feel more sorry for a man in a dress than they do for elite athletes losing their sports places and prizes, women being raped in prison, sexual assault victims wanting women to care for them, young adults regretting being sold a lie and being put on a path of medicalization. Why oh why?

Emotionalsupportviper · 27/10/2022 22:30

tactum · 27/10/2022 21:57

And lo and behold the traffic on the thread has reduced drastically since it was moved.......we are well and truly in our corner.

It pisses me off because I had a real life conversation with a friend this week who was a bit like op, let's just be nice etc. When we talked through the anomalies with that stance and the protection of our rights, and her teenage daughters she changed her stance massively.

Exactly!

Even now there are so many people who have no extent of transactivism, what is being demanded, what govts and organisations are supporting (often in defiance of current law), and even more - what the implications are for themselves and their daughters.

They don't know because it is deliberately kept hidden on every medium.

Helleofabore · 27/10/2022 22:30

PoseyFlump

Have you read many threads on this board?

There is quite a diverse range of opinions. And to be fair, most poll results for threads that get moved here from AIBU probably represent the split of posts on this board.

We have many posters come onto this board and tell us we are an ‘echo chamber’ as a way to shame women stating their boundaries and asking that sex is prioritised when sex matters in any discussion of the rights of all females.

tactum · 27/10/2022 22:30

Boiledbeetle from now on me and my vagina are identifying with you all the way!

Oblomov22 · 27/10/2022 22:27

I object to this thread being moved out of AIBU into Feminism.

Ndd135632 · 27/10/2022 22:26

Oh he’ll be alright. Focus yourself on women and girls safety and prizes and shortlists.

PoseyFlump · 27/10/2022 22:22

Helleofabore · 27/10/2022 22:11

Good luck getting it moved back.

But why the echo chamber comment?

Do you not think it's like an echo chamber when the threads are moved to a specific subsection?

Boiledbeetle · 27/10/2022 22:16

You know what Fuck It.

I am so done with this constant bullshitting and gaslighting of women, females, and girls.

I'm done being a woman.

From now on i am identifying as pissed off gender.

My pronouns are off/you/fuck/you/complete/bellends

Good evening.

Pissed off Boiled
off/you/fuck/you/complete/bellends

(Not you lovely lot obviously just the people who are hell bent on turning the world upside down and inside out)

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 27/10/2022 22:11

You don’t think active threads should be in active then? If people are actually discussing Brexit, Covid or people wanting to stand as members of Parliament expecting others to lie about their sex then this should be hidden
Yes, but as I said, sometimes they seem to be all the boards are about and not everyone comes here (as in MN) for that.

Helleofabore · 27/10/2022 22:11

Good luck getting it moved back.

But why the echo chamber comment?

borogovia · 27/10/2022 22:07

Also, yeah, back to AIBU.

tactum · 27/10/2022 22:05

Exactly!!!!

PoseyFlump · 27/10/2022 22:04

We don't want an echo chamber. We want to go back to AIBU.

borogovia · 27/10/2022 22:03

I'd like him to say 'I want to be able to do boy mode or girl mode, and I know it's just clothes and I'm still a man'. I'd like him to recognise that if he had been born a girl, he would be most unlikely to have the career he has had. The man's a comic genius, and it's depressing to see him acting like a dick.

TheBiologyStupid · 27/10/2022 22:00

TimeAtTheBar · 27/10/2022 20:32

Eddie Izzard was born a man, is a man and will die a man.

Just like all men, however they may ‘identify’.

Yes, facts can be so inconvenient sometimes.

tactum · 27/10/2022 21:57

And lo and behold the traffic on the thread has reduced drastically since it was moved.......we are well and truly in our corner.

It pisses me off because I had a real life conversation with a friend this week who was a bit like op, let's just be nice etc. When we talked through the anomalies with that stance and the protection of our rights, and her teenage daughters she changed her stance massively.

borogovia · 27/10/2022 21:56

I feel a bit sorry for him. He talks about boy and girl mode, and not minding pronouns. He could move to a full on GC position and I wish he would. I think he has a cross dressing fetish which he was coping with in the past by making it part of his creativity, and I don't think we - his audience - fully realised that. I think he is now finding it harder to cope with and he is now surrounded by people suggesting he could deal with it by transitioning in some way. He's clearly partly but not fully convinced by this and is trying to find his own position.

Helleofabore · 27/10/2022 21:54

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 27/10/2022 21:49

One reason is that a bafflingly large number of MNetters don't identify as feminists, and therefore wouldn't touch the FWR board with a bargepole.
I don't think it's baffling, as in a lot would say they're pro women's rights as in think a woman should be able to think for herself, and by doing so isn't just a product of being brainwashed by the patriarchy if it isn't a view that aligns with a certain subset of feminism.
Feminism is a broad church for want of a better expression and the extreme not everyone is on board with.
On here over the years I've seen people who are inclusive of all be called young, patronised with no idea how old they are
Intersectional feminism dismissed, as in being black can just take a seat as we have "this" or "that" to deal with as women.

Um....how do you just park being black for "more pressing issues?" if you are both black and a woman? They're BOTH in play just as equally.
I can see why people give it a swerve

And yet when some poster’s contribution are clearly racist
and called out, those posters disappear of the thread.

How bizarre to see this post.

Shelefttheweb · 27/10/2022 21:54

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 27/10/2022 21:50

I have literally just said why I think so 😕 Did you actually read the post?

You don’t think active threads should be in active then? If people are actually discussing Brexit, Covid or people wanting to stand as members of Parliament expecting others to lie about their sex then this should be hidden?

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 27/10/2022 21:50

Shelefttheweb · 27/10/2022 21:49

And it was removed from active/trending. Why do you think that is?

I have literally just said why I think so 😕 Did you actually read the post?

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 27/10/2022 21:49

One reason is that a bafflingly large number of MNetters don't identify as feminists, and therefore wouldn't touch the FWR board with a bargepole.
I don't think it's baffling, as in a lot would say they're pro women's rights as in think a woman should be able to think for herself, and by doing so isn't just a product of being brainwashed by the patriarchy if it isn't a view that aligns with a certain subset of feminism.
Feminism is a broad church for want of a better expression and the extreme not everyone is on board with.
On here over the years I've seen people who are inclusive of all be called young, patronised with no idea how old they are
Intersectional feminism dismissed, as in being black can just take a seat as we have "this" or "that" to deal with as women.

Um....how do you just park being black for "more pressing issues?" if you are both black and a woman? They're BOTH in play just as equally.
I can see why people give it a swerve

Shelefttheweb · 27/10/2022 21:49

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 27/10/2022 21:30

Apparently it's been moved (never noticed what board it was in, it was in active I think when I saw it)
Don't think it's anything to do with a "naughty" corner, just people see the topic and think FFS
Like Brexit and Covid threads, they tend to invade so have their own space.

And it was removed from active/trending. Why do you think that is?

PoseyFlump · 27/10/2022 21:43

Doesn't matter what he's doing with his penis.

Although we would prefer he keeps the piano playing to himself.

Helleofabore · 27/10/2022 21:42

ColdstreamAnnie · 27/10/2022 20:37

He is gender fluid, I believe.
I suppose I felt sorry for him because I can't imagine how difficult it must be to identify as one gender and have lots of people tell you that you're not.

Aww!

How sad that Eddie gets to declare what ‘mode’ he is in to maximize the benefit of the situation.

’Boy’ mode for movies and high paying roles.

’Girl’ mode for those fun and skirt swirling moments and those that allow Eddie to identify into an oppressed group and take opportunities from women. You know, the cunty types who Eddie believes don’t deserve it as much as Eddie does.

A person who thinks Eddie is in a ‘difficult’ place obviously does not see the reality. Eddie wants the best of both worlds and is being pandered to so that Eddie gets what Eddie wants.

Pure male entitlement and yet there are still people who cannot see it!

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