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Educate and Celebrate remove patron after Channel 4 performance.

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Rainbowshit · 27/10/2022 12:07

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www.educateandcelebrate.org/trustees-of-educate-celebrate-remove-jordan-gray-as-a-patron/

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3timeslucky · 27/10/2022 17:43

Hoardasurass · 27/10/2022 12:51

When is someone with safeguarding training going to be set loose on these "charities "

There used to be a poster here, brilliant on safe-guarding and kept bringing issues back to it. IIRC she got banned. I wonder how many safe-guarding experts have found them similarly side-lined or ostracised in the real world? It might explain how this kind of thing is happening over and over and over and the wilful blindness and disinterest in the red flags flying.

LaughingPriest · 27/10/2022 16:44

It's kind of hilarious how TRAs constantly reference 4-year-olds as being the main demographic who "understand" gender ideology.
4yos totally get why it's fine to have chocolate ice cream for every meal too! They're so switched on!

TheBiologyStupid · 27/10/2022 16:14

Archived copy of the old Peter Tatchell patron page: archive.ph/u1vTW

TheBiologyStupid · 27/10/2022 16:10

Pyjamagame · 27/10/2022 15:57

That "404 - Page not found" message is something else!

This link appears to be taking some time away to reflect on its life choices.

We are sure it will return soon, refreshed and ready to educate & celebrate.

Helleofabore · 27/10/2022 16:00

Pyjamagame · 27/10/2022 15:57

Goodness.

If organisations start to listen about Tatchell's background, that is another positive.

If Tatchell stopped being wheeled out as some kind of wise elder and organisations (particularly media) were upfront in saying - there is some dubiousness to this person's 'explanations' of their previous statement and writings as to their appropriateness to have any to do with children... yes. that would be a bonus.

I have yet to come across any trans activist that will say publicly whether they agree or disagree with Tatchell. They just try to ignore the question.

Pyjamagame · 27/10/2022 15:57

Tatchell gone too?

www.educateandcelebrate.org/peter-tatchell-patron/

ApocalipstickNow · 27/10/2022 15:44

Schools are having to deal with online safety- why having naked or semi naked photos sent or received can be damaging etc but it’s ok if it’s on TV.

it’s a very mixed message there.

Pyjamagame · 27/10/2022 15:29

"I actually went in today as Tess to introduce the children to something different, something they might not see every day. And I’m telling you, I’m on a bit of a high because it’s been beautiful! In the past, secondary school was a difficult experience for me 20 years ago. Walking through the corridors, there would be taunts and abuse but this time, people were yelling but it was all positivity: ‘You go, girl!’ ‘Slay it!’"

RoyalCorgi · 27/10/2022 15:28

So, either Educate and Celebrate either knew Jordan Gray was going into school on the organisation's behalf, and are now lying about it, or they didn't know, in which case their due diligence is as spectacularly hopeless as Mermaids's.

Then again, what is so awful about Jordan Gray from Educate and Celebrate's point of view? If they're happy to boast about Miss Tess Tickle going to talk to children on their behalf, why is Gray so much less acceptable?

Pyjamagame · 27/10/2022 15:27

Miss Tess talking about her (sic) work in schools.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 27/10/2022 15:18

Pyjamagame · 27/10/2022 15:11

Erm

this charity are sending a man called testicle into schools?

right you are

Pyjamagame · 27/10/2022 15:18

So, not Jordan Gray, but a drag queen with a very questionable name going into schools seemingly sanctioned by the trust.

Pyjamagame · 27/10/2022 15:11

But yet

mobile.twitter.com/miss_tesstickle/status/1095281521957720064

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 27/10/2022 15:06

Here's Jordan speaking at Passmore's Academy - according to Jordan for a group called Inspirational Women's Day that sends women into schools to celebrate IWD?

The schools safeguarding lead have some questions to answer.

WinterTrees · 27/10/2022 15:06

Interesting that in the statement Educate and Celebrate make some considerable effort to avoid using pronouns for Jordan.

IcakethereforeIam · 27/10/2022 15:02

A bit of a tangent but there's a thread of tweets via fair cop from safe school alliance. A woman is crowdfunding to try to get ? to stop hiding what children are being taught in schools by outside agencies. I'm not sure if this is linked to the freedom of information that was refused recently on the grounds of copyright (?).

I can't link directly, I think MN doesn't allow that. But have a read and, if you think it's worthwhile, fill your boots and pass on.

twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1585338958409789441?s=20&t=XC6-TFPDO1khGLV2cBOdnA

Justme56 · 27/10/2022 14:54

Has anyone actually looked into the organisation. Obviously they were a catalyst for the Trent School case and then there is the Jordan saga. Yesterday there was a Telegraph article where Ofsted reported that they don’t endorse any organisation but if you Google Ofsted Educate and Celebrate all the schools come up with pretty much the same text along the lines of seen as best practice by Ofsted and the DfE. They run similar award schemes to Stonewall in schools. Just to add I did watch a video by one of the schools about the training. Included was training for teachers on the ‘new language’ (all the different genders - I guess) sixth formers taking assemblies on pronouns and also something about ‘diversity’ prefects (not sure if that’s the exact term). All seems very ideological.

Datun · 27/10/2022 14:35

"We support you to embed gender, gender identity and sexual orientation into the fabric of your School"

Which appears to be all about male sexuality and getting your cock out.

I had no idea this person went into schools.

Jesus wept. And now the organisation is denying all knowledge of it.

What a fucking shit show all this is.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 27/10/2022 14:32

But but but ….that’s discrimination! Marginalising some poor misunderstood exhibitionist who says he is better then a woman because he always ‘takes it anally’ , how are young children going to learn not to mind this sort of honesty and common sense if people like Jordan aren’t allowed to educate them? Disgraceful on the part of the Charity’.

DameHelena · 27/10/2022 14:26

'As far as we are aware' How mealy-mouthed. Clearly either E&C are lying/misinformed or Jordan is. Whichever way, it's not a good look.

Abitofalark · 27/10/2022 14:20

They're not aware that he has gone into schools! Considering that's what they do and he does, that's a remarkable achievement of unawareness. Why do they have him in their organisation?

What they do in schools and what he would be doing there, presumably:

(From their website):

"We support you to embed gender, gender identity and sexual orientation into the fabric of your School"

That's what is going wrong in schools. Children are being indoctrinated by groups with a specific ideology.

MrsJamin · 27/10/2022 14:11

It looks like Jordan visited Passmores for a women's event (🙄) and possibly it had not anything to do with EAC. www.yourharlow.com/2020/03/13/passmores-students-celebrate-female-achievement-and-inspirational-women/

MrsOvertonsWindow · 27/10/2022 13:45

Here's Jordan speaking at Passmore's Academy - according to Jordan for a group called Inspirational Women's Day that sends women into schools to celebrate IWD?

So Jordan is considered an appropriate role model by another group - can't find that group online but wonder whether they'll see Jordan as a fit person to "inspire" children in schools in the future?

Helleofabore · 27/10/2022 13:21

BTW: if there is a nudity warning for a theatre gig, then people are warned and can choose.

But, that should be something that this charity was fully aware of when maintaining the patron position.

And yes, they should understand that a person stripping for no relevant reason like this (and there would be very few relevant reasons) means lack of understanding boundaries or having too few of their (the patron in question’s) own.