Menopause policy at work

Trans women vs. Cis women

Trans women is a shorthand term for transgender women. It defines women who were assigned a male sex at birth but exist as women. If you identify as a woman and you're not a transgender woman, you're likely a cis woman

Well there you go - we’ve been redefined!

No, it may effect trans men, they may in fact go through premature menopause if they are on cross sex hormones. Trans women will never experience menopause, at most they may have some side effects if they stop taking cross sex hormones.Cis isn't a commonly understood term to most people, its rejected by others, using this term in policy just confuses and excludes

Trans women are men so no they do not have any symptoms of menopause.

OP I guess what you are saying is that they are implying that females who ID as men won't get the menopause. Which they will because they are female. Unfortunately they are actually likely to get it decades earlier and they are likely to suffer for many decades more than women who do not decide to take drugs and have mastectomies and hysterectomies.

Do they actually define 'cis' anywhere? I'd possibly go back with if they are trying to be all 'woke' and imply that women are a subset of their own sex, they need to work alot harder than just add 'cis' in front of women to a policy. They could just say 'women'. It is a rather half hearted attempt and I'd guess they are just waiting to see if anyone pushes back. So ask them what they mean by 'cis' for a start. Then ask them what if you aren't CIS, will you be getting the menpause and what the policy is for women who are just women, not CIS and not trans.

Our menopause policy doesn’t even have the word woman or female. I’m trying to get on a diversity panel and I’m hoping I can change it through that. If not, I’m going to start nagging HR.

To accept being called ‘cis’ you have to accept gender identity ideology. It is exclusionary language. Also, menopause affects trans-identifying women ( especially if they are on cross-sex hormones), so again it is exclusionary.

The only people that should be left out are trans-identifying men. Taking cross-sex hormones can give them similar symptoms to the menopause, but it’s not menopause.

What? How?

It's not just about hormones either. It's also about hormone receptors. I bet a lot of money that men and women have oestrogen receptive tissues in different places.

But tbf, my employers insist that menopause affects EVERYBODY, because men live and work with women who are going through it, and we can't ignore their feelz now, can we?

Like men who say 'we are pregnant' 😡

Can women who don't identify as cis- gendered women opt out of the menopause then?
Thought not.
Do you want to point out to them that the menopause doesn't really care about your identity.

How exactly does menopause affect trans women? You do know that men and women have different levels of different hormones?

It would affect all females going through the menopause, surely? Regardless of any "cis" considerations. It's a biological issue... cis is about gender roles? Ask them how they think it might affect women/females who don't identify as cis perhaps?

Oh. So what’s your complaint? That they call women cis-gendered?

Well it’s not even true really. Menopause can affect trans women - it’s all about hormones…