Menopause policy at work

Me too, it is a very common assumption that trans woman means a woman who is trans in other words a woman who identifies as a man.

It is true that women who identify as men will suffer early menopause if they use hormone blockers and cross sex hormones. The symptoms and issues may differ from those of us going through a natural menopause though, I’m not sure.

Males identifying as women DO NOT experience the symptoms of menopause. The same as they do not experience periods or PMT. They do not have a hormone cycle, nor the receptors or bodily structures to make that possible. They may experience some withdrawal symptoms I guess if they suddenly stop taking estrogen in their forties/fifties but that is not the menopause.

As a woman currently experiencing distressing menopause symptoms for the first time i take huge issue with men larping at women's biological reality.

I hope that poster was confused and meant women who think they are men will also experience the menopause i.e trans men.

My guess is that person thinks a trans woman is a female who IDs as a male.

That should say "some men and some transwomen experiencing andropause"

The could, if they wanted to, talk about "Hormonal Issues in the Workplace." Then they could talk about women and transmen experiencing menopause, some men experiencing andropause and some trans people generally experiencing hormonal issues dependent on their hormone treatment path.

Why can't they do this?

What are you talking about!?!??!

Is ask what the chuff gender has to do with menopause. And keep asking. Like a toddler ‘but why?’ ‘How’ ‘I don’t understand, please explain how your choice of haircut and clothes and how you ‘feel’ has any effect on menopause?’

My current plan is to talk to HR, or someone, about how boring and repetitive it is. It probably is the worlds most uninspiring document. I’m going to offer to help improve it.

Ours doesn’t either. It seems to have been written by Stonewall. I’m keen to find a way to challenge it.

This prompted me to look at ours. It just refers to women and people with other gender identities; and then refers to colleague (and their, not her) throughout. No mention of the ghastly "cis" though so like a pp I can live with it.

Exist as a woman

What does that mean ?

I don't do most things many other women do - does that mean I am not one?

The only reason I thought I was one was because I don't have a penis

Am I wrong ?
Am I am man?
Yet I still get menopause
Despite being neither a transgender or cisgender women

They can fuck right off with that bollocks

Our current policy, and all official missives, doesn’t mention women at all. Just people who menstruate. Really not sure we can’t just say women and others who menstruate…

@LuciferRising using employees as a gender neutral term is very standard in CS policies and not one I would challenge.

I do think you could challenge Cis and particularly Cisgendered women. Suggest they use women, trans men and non-binary OFAB (Observed female at/before birth). Make it clear AFAB is considered offensive to people with DSD (Disorder/difference of Sex Development)

You may be able to lift some information from this guidance by Sex Matters sex-matters.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Media-handbook.pdf#page9

At least your policy mentioned the word 'women'. We had a huge email from HR about menopause awareness week and not once did the word 'woman' appear, there were about 20 references to "people impacted by.....", "people who suffer from...." though.

How exactly? I would like to know specifically how a male can go through menopause please.

The use of the term cis is discriminatory as it trys to define women as a subset to shoe horn men into the term woman.
It's the start of a slippery slope for you at work. And a clear signal from management that they don't uphold single sex provisions for you as per the law.
It's a red flag.
Make sure you have your camera on mace ready next time you try to use the loo.
Hugs

How ridiculous. So normal biological women who are not cis as they do not identify as anything just are themselves, so not cis some sort of stupid barbie term, don't have the menopause then? All gender non conforming women are not in the group predominantly affected? Utter nonsense and it is actually offensive.

How is it neutral ?

At a time of life when a females biology really matters you are being told because you are not cis gendered you are somehow wierd ?

Do they really thing most menopausal women identify as cis gendered ?

No it doesn't

It affects all females irrespective of their gender identities

Those with male gender identities may experience it much earlier if they take medical actions to align their body with their identity