Kemi Badenoch appointed new Minister for Women and Equalities

What the actual fuck

If you never walk down ordinary streets then you never meet ordinary racists and have a different experience to ordinary people who do walk down ordinary streets.

Wtf is wrong with you? Ordinary racists? Rich people are also ordinary racists. Only more powerful.

If you never walk down ordinary streets then you never meet ordinary racists and have a different experience to ordinary people who do walk down ordinary streets. I did not say that KK never faced racism.

Presumably the people who say that Kwasi Kwarteng is not black are the one's who define blackness by experience not skin colour? How else could anyone put forward the insane view that a black person is not black?

Yes @TheClogLady exactly, that comment from him was vile but not surprising, it’s what they really think

Crikey!

Call me a Pollyanna here but I tend to give most posters the benefit of the doubt unless I’m already very familiar with the username.

I’m hoping that WhyAmIPayingFees didn’t actually mean to imply

‘I support young black women in positions of power but only when their opinions align with my own political interests’

… but it’s certainly hard to understand that comment in any other way?

Reminds me of that (paraphrasing) ‘black people, not really ‘black’ unless they vote democrat, according to Joe Biden’ nonsense.

I feel physically ill reading this shit. Two posters so far….

My grandmother in the 1960’s in NZ was in a fancy pub with her white husband and his white friends who had plenty of money to pay and she was still refused service and asked to leave.

RACISTS DON’T GIVE A FUCK IF YOU’RE RICH.

Seriously fuck you for saying that

Aye but we're not all the same

WTF

I would not wish to say that someone is not really black, but it is undoubtedly true that some black people are increedibly privileged to the point that they simply do not share the same experience as most ordinary black people and have been sheltered from all sorts of types of racism.

They don’t get sheltered from your ugly racism though

Yes I've seen it now WahineToa. It's a despicable comment. Quite right to call it out.

If black is defined as a majority experience not just as simply a colour then Kwasi Kwarteng is not black. I would not define "black" this way.

Sorry!? Who does define it that way??

@YouSirNeighMmmm honestly please shut up. It’s so fucking gross and so fucking inaccurate. Racists don’t care about your money, they just don’t like black and brown people. So stop it. It’s racist what you’re doing

@Signalbox no it’s there, I didn’t report this one because I want people to see it. Yes @verastan it’s like what Rupa Huq said about Kwasi and what Nadia Whittome said about Rishi.

why anyone would assume the left wing party is kind or decent when they are full of stuff like this is beyond me. We get in NZ too, the first Maori MP wasn’t ‘the right kind’ ‘ doesn’t speak the language’ ( it used to be banned at school that’s why ) and ‘doesn’t ever talk about it’ ( all comments from the left Inc Labour Party.

I hate it so much.

I would not wish to say that someone is not really black, but it is undoubtedly true that some black people are increedibly privileged to the point that they simply do not share the same experience as most ordinary black people and have been sheltered from all sorts of types of racism.

If black is defined as a majority experience not just as simply a colour then Kwasi Kwarteng is not black. I would not define "black" this way.

‘Nodding dog’

Scraping the barrel with this stuff. How much does she rile you.

No, I'm in agreement with you, Wahine.

@verastan Lots of people said that, not just Labour!

TheClogLady reading the debate, one of the concerns about buffer zones was that any restriction on rights to protest risks unintended consequences and potential seeping into other issues.

There also seemed to be some technical points on the actual policing of these zones that were probably pertinent, too - at almost all clinics protests aren't a problem, so making a blanket ban risks allocating resources that are sorely needed elsewhere. (I didn't quite follow all the discussions on these zones)

Also it seemed to be suggested that 'prayer' was one of the definitions of 'protest' to be banned, which seemed to risk making someone's inner thoughts possibly illegal.

I actually thought Fiona Bruce's thoughts were careful and nuanced. Despite her faith (and I presume a pro-life/anti abortion stance), she argued in favour of buffer zones for practical and compassionate reasons.

What did whyamIpayingfees say? presumably any racist comment will have been deleted by now.

I agree @WhyAmIPayingFees's racism is abhorrent.

Reminds me of the Labour MP who recently said Kwasi Kwarteng wasn't really black.

She was like a nodding dog at PMQS.

Absolutely. Tory manipulation. They are really not more likely to support women than other parties. The modus operandi is to create tensions and hatred to avoid people realising the rights they are losing, the harm they are suffering and the polarisation of society.
Far right views are never supportive of anyone.

Are there really on two posters objecting to the racism from @WhyAmIPayingFees ????