Kemi Badenoch appointed new Minister for Women and Equalities

Exactly. And if they do enter, women should feel entirely comfortable, as they have been for decades, to tell them to get out.

I can't see anyone making it illegal. Entirely unacceptable, and the person viewed with deep suspicion as dodgy, and challenged, yes. Of course.

That's exactly how it's always been.

Is she? That would be concerning.

I had a quick Google of ‘Badenoch equal pay act’ and these were the results:

questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2022-04-14/154109/

policymogul.com/parliamentary-record/written-q-and-a/30103/question-for-women-and-equalities

Can you point me in the right direction as I can’t immediately find any reference as to being against the Equal Pay Act (although Google is probably not my friend on this, I accept!)

That's not true. What do you mean by "etc etc."?

She is in favour of getting rid of the equal pay act etc etc.

Is she? Don’t think so. What is etc? Etc?

She answered a question about equal pay here recently:

questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2022-04-14/154109/

This exchange was when I noticed her, she was right to ask Noakes to define terms since we all seem to have different meanings to well used words!

She is in favour of getting rid of the equal pay act etc etc.

She is a terrible appointment

I believe in basic facts / reality. People have an unchanging and unchangeable sex which is determined soon after conception and often observed a very long time before birth.

I believe woman is a sex class (see any competent dictionary) and women's toilets are for women.

I do not believe that a man's claim to identify as a woman is in any way meaningful other than as an indication that he might have poor mental health or might be a predator seeking to gain access to vulnerable women.

I think that it is ludicrous to claim that a person with a penis is a woman, and I think it is equally ludicrous to suggest that a man becomes less of a man simply because he has lost his penis (surgically or in an accident, it makes no difference).

Don’t be silly, DadJoke, men aren’t clownfish!

The numbers, when you crunch them, say black Americans are slightly less likely to be killed by the police than whites, proportionately.

They are somewhat more likely to have a negative interaction, even taking account of offenses.

They are much more likely to be both perpetrators and victims in violent crime.

The people most likely to have interactions with the police, and be killed by the police, are people in poor neighbourhoods, whatever their race. A poor white person is much more likely to be a target than a well-off black person.

Do you believe men can change sex, otherwise this is just sophistry.

Not if they were initially erroneously observed male at birth due to a DSD and further tests proved they are in fact, genetically female.

No males in female spaces. None.
It’s very simple, and it includes spaces for girls, aka minor human females and not just spaces for adult human females.

I think that people of the male sex should not be in female toilets, because they are......female toilets. Is this really so difficult to understand?

If everyone knew that everyone was using the toilet of their own sex, then nobody would be having to eyeball anyone, wondering about their genitals or anything.

The answers are here, plenty of them. The question is answered. Stop repeating it.

Back to Kemi. I’m pleased to see a black woman as minister of women’s and equalities, because representation matters and on the issues of most concern to me she has the same view as I do.

Abortions are not under threat here. It’s not an issue to concern myself with.

@DadJoke you’ve already had a deletion for the same question. Stop.

Thanks @MNHQ

If you think you already know, then why are you asking?

I have never said I “support” Kemi. Are you able to understand nuance, at all, or does everything have to be black and white, for or against, in your world? The world doesn’t divide into “goodies and baddies”, though it does reliably divide into people who want to have an honest conversation and people who don’t, I find.

I’m generally not much in favour of “banning” things, which is why your silly question doesn’t work for me on yet another level than the one already pointed out by so man6 women here, that we simply don’t know what number and kind of males are to be gathered in under the title “transwoman”. So I’m not going to wang on bout “banning” anything. I want to protect women and girls, and part of that is the rigorous defence of single sex spaces. I’m not reframing my worldview into yours and making gender the differentiator, because it just.doesn’t.work.

And that, frankly, is far more care and attention than your derailing merits.

I'm not. I stated in the first comment what her views were. She voted against buffer zones and has mainly abstained on abortion issues.

despite her views on abortion

No. once again you’re twisting. Her vote on Buffer zones. Not abortions.

Why can't you give us a simple, stable definition of a trans woman if you want us to talk about what rights this group of men should have?

It's impossible to answer your question without you clarifying what you mean by 'transwoman', because we don't knownwhich demographic of society you are specifically referring to?

It's really not a gotcha.

Trans women currently use women's toilets. Most GC people I interact with are perfectly happy to say they don't want trans women in women's toilets. Forstater, for example, is quite open about it. I'm frankly amazed no one is willing to say that trans women should be banned from women's loos - if that's not the case, I'd like to know.

The argument tends to go like this "trans women are men, men should not enter women's toilets, therefore trans women should not enter women's toilets." I didn't think this was remotely contentious.

This is why, I thought, you were supporting Badenoch despite her views on abortion and gay marriage.

I want men to use the men's toilets.

I fully support the right of any man who has changed sex to use the women;s toilets.

Define ‘trans woman’ define ‘woman’?

I want ALL males out of spaces designated for females. They have no right to be there.

You lot are so much more grown up than me!