Kellie-Jay Keen (AKA Posie Parker) appreciation thread

It's not; it's just a variant spelling.

But, and I mean this with all due respect, who the fuck cares? What I really care about is why ELO is slandering a woman and whether ELO is going to provide evidence for any of ELO's accusations.

Nope. I argued it is not widely used as a verb, especially in business.

So just to refer you to your post where it is YOU that is claiming its usage on the other thread:

EastLondonObserver · 11/01/2023 12:33

The post uses it as a verb - not common, at least, it seems, outside of slang in some corners of the internet.

And then you went from there with the 'verb' narrative. While I have maintained that you should look it up.

However, I used the term in the way that the Gender GP article used it.

You decided to follow the 'verb' narrative. I am very happy to say it is not a verb at all and that it is a noun. I was merely answering your repeated assertions.

I have been consistent in saying 'gatekeeping' is not 'jargon', it is not limited to feminists as 'identity jargon' and 'niche language', and that yes, 'gatekeeping' is a term regularly used in business.

That is what I call fuckwittery.

Now... how about that evidence of Kellie Jay being 'platformed' with Johansen?

I really don't know why there is a 'debate' (and that word is doing a LOT of heavy lifting) about the specific usage of a word on an appreciation thread

Absolutely no one needs to prove evidence of the specific usage of a word....especially to someone who doesn't seem to provide evidence to anyone else

Please answer why it's okay for you to be in correspondence with alleged holocaust denier, but not okay for KJK to be in the same room as him @EastLondonObserver

I don't really care about the gatekeeper thing, tbh. You're wrong but I can let it go. But I really do want to know why you seem to have set a standard for a woman that you are not prepared to achieve yourself.

The point being debated is that gatekeeper exists and is used in business, which you denied, initially.

No use of the verb “to gatekeep” in that article though which is the point being debated.

Guys - “gatekeeper” is a noun. You need to provide evidence “to gatekeep” is a widely used verb, including in business to win the argument.

I'd like to know the answer to this, please.

EastLondonObserver · Today 14:22

Helleofabore · Today 14:20

"Title, page number?"

I don't know if it's your one watt intellect, dishonesty, or just your wish to clown dance, but here you go: Helle has already provided the evidence.

Helleofabore · Today 13:19

Look.... here ... very first google entry regarding 'marketing'
^www.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/gatekeeper-marketing^

“Not used as a verb…”

was referring to the content in the link shared. It was shared - presumably given the point of debate- as an example of a use of “to gatekeep”. Except there wasn’t one in the content. So a clear fail.

yes... Getting back to the thread.

I am waiting for the evidence that the person that ELO said KJK was

sharing platforms with holocaust deniers
Is “fab” sharing a platform with holocaust deniers?
Most credible people draw the line at holocaust deniers
So sharing a platform with a holocaust denier
Holocaust denial?
sharing platforms with US social conservatives, holocaust deniers

Because according to the rather biased link posted by ELO about Johansen, I have seen nothing that says he was 'platformed' at this conference. I can see several people there discussing women's rights and the impact of gender ideology on Norway, on law and on female teenagers there.

"In February 2019, Keen traveled to Norway to speak at a red-brown Mot Dag conference alongside Hans Jørgen Lysglimt Johansen, a far-right Norwegian politician and Holocaust denialist, who she took a selfie with. Keen later said she didn't know who Lysglimt was.[2][42][43]"

But nothing to say that she was 'platformed' with this man.

Where is that evidence ELO. Because, it is looking pretty flimsy at the moment.

And yet you don't know that it comes from "to gatekeep" - which is a verb.

to gatekeep, is indeed a verb.

but it’s not a very widely used one, especially in business, which were the claims I disputed.

do keep up.

So why is it okay for you to correspond with an alleged holocaust denier but not okay for KJK to be in the same room as him?

EastLondonObserver

Not used as a verb though, is it?

Good grief! Pleas do yourself a favour, go and do a GCSE in English language, come back in two years and we'll probably have forgotten how ignorant you are! Of course it's a bloody verb!

So no...you don't

I know “gatekeeper” is a noun, not a verb.

It’s easy to find a way of contacting pretty much anyone on the internet these days.

I think if you had any evidence whatsoever, you'd post it.

I also think you don't know what a verb is.

And I think you don't understand anything about business or marketing.

I think you're both jealous and terrified of KJK.

I also think you probably have some difficult personal problems that you need to deal with through therapy rather than by shitposting on Mumsnet.

Sure. If it helps discredit his associates.

WTF have you got the email address of holocaust deniers for?!

Is that in the Giant Rolodex of Evil?

I’ve just emailed him

Oh, so you correspond with holocaust deniers?

Evidence?

Oh come on, have you ever seen ELO post a link, ever? It's like an evidence black hole - capable of swallowing any amount of evidence without any visible effect, but no evidence ever comes out.

Pro tip for people new to the internet - once you have a page you've found a citation for a claim, you can copy the thing starting with "http" from the address bar at the top of your browser into a forum message, then other people can click on it and check your claims.

No. I am now away from my desk. I won't be back for sometime as it is Friday afternoon and I have appointments.

But do crack on.