Kellie-Jay Keen (AKA Posie Parker) appreciation thread

So now you are just left with the 'selfie' angle.

Which she admitted that she had no idea who that person was.

And is yet another 'guilt by association' distortion.

Is this just like the 'real world politics' example then?

Do politicians, celebrities and influencers also check exactly who they are getting their selfies taken with?

This is just more fuckwittery.

And yet, hilariously, all it showed readers was that you have only ever engaged on this thread with bad faith.

'Winning!!! What a legend!'

What didn't work out for me?

Gatekeeping is still a very common usage term and is widely used across many disciplines. It can be a verb. It can be a noun. The only person who cared was you. You who initially tried to make out that it was 'jargon'.

Getting back to the thread.

"I accused her on the basis of the seemingly credible links widely available online. But am now seeking harder evidence as these weren’t deemed robust enough for the members of this board. That’s good practice, no?"

You have posted something about KJK being platformed without any evidence at all.

It is good practice to actually NOT make claims that you cannot directly evidence yourself.

If you were convinced by the evidence you initially presented here. That is all we really need to know. You have a very low bar of 'evidence' and you are not interested at all in engaging with positive intentions. Something that is 'not in the spirit' of this site actually.

And you think you are a winner?

Well, in my home country we would definitely call you a 'winner'.

Please provide evidence of the following:

1. ELO pushing back against ideologies - what ideologies? What does 'pushing back' mean in this context?
2. KJK sharing a platform with holocaust denier
3. KJK rubbing shoulders with a holocaust denier

Evidence of this?

Meanwhile you've told us yourself you're happy to exchange emails with a holocaust denier. What hypocrisy.

You've given zero evidence to support your claims. Zero evidence is obviously not robust enough for anyone other than an absolutely mindless idiot.

And now you're inviting dialogue with a holocaust denier yourself. Which, by your standards, would surely make you the very thing you've falsely accused KJK of being. Good work.

This is a laughable parallel!

Someone who is engaging in the process of pushing back against ideologies they disagree with is not in the same position as someone sharing a platform with proponents of those ideologies, or rubbing shoulder with them for mutual benefit.

No one said she was. But she is happy to take selfies with them.

Indeed.

So in fact, the only person who is associating with holocaust deniers is ELO.

I accused her on the basis of the seemingly credible links widely available online. But am now seeking harder evidence as these weren’t deemed robust enough for the members of this board. That’s good practice, no?

You're welcome to scroll back through the thread yourself and quote the comments you'd like to discuss in more detail.

I gave you a principle. If someone says KJK is a holocaust denier, they need to provide evidence to support that claim, or it's a lie. The same principle applies to any accusation made.

So, you don't have anything?

So, you have accused her on the basis of no evidence at all? Some one else told you something that you believed.

In the meantime, readers have now looked at the other speakers at the event who are discussing the impacts of gender identity and have made up their own minds that Kellie Jay spoke at a conference with other speakers about the impacts of gender identity.

No holocaust denier has been proven.

As my dear old Gran used to say: "Don't argue with idiots, they're too stupid to know when they've lost."

I’m sorry it didn’t work out for you.

That's really not an answer to my question, is it?

I asked why it's okay for you to have an email correspondence with a holocaust denier but not okay for KJK to be in the same room as one.

You accused KJK of being a fascist. Surely by the same logic you are a fascist?

Ok, but that's not what I asked, is it?

It wasn’t me who used the word charlatan to describe it. It was another poster.

You asserted and twisted the 'debate' to be about verbs when it was not initially.

You have done nothing but prove that you are all about posting fuckwittery and have not yet posted anything that supports your claims about KJK and 'holocaust denial'.

So, you have not 'won' a thing.

Gatekeeping is still a term that is widely used in business and many other disciplines. You tried to deviate it 'verb' but have not actually achieved anything at all.

The term as it was used was correct. Despite the rabbit hole you went down.

What have you got that supports your claims about KJK and 'holocaust denial'?

ELO has said that KJK associates with holocaust deniers and that she is a charlatan who is fronting for fascism. You can scroll back and read those comments for yourself.

No one said she is

As l mentioned, I am awaiting on replies to messages sent to the parties who hold the evidence.

Great. Well done, I expect Mummy will be able to find you a sticker if you ask nicely.

Now, could you please answer my question?

Sorry, who on this thread has said KJK is a holocaust denier?

If you quote precisely that will make it easier to establish the 'verifiable facts', as you put it, and make sure no misrepresentations are occurring.

Now... how about that evidence of Kellie Jay being 'platformed' with Johansen?

And how about the explanation as to why this is the most dreadful, discrediting thing you've ever heard of - but it's fine for you to strike up an email correspondence with him?

I've asked three or four times now, but you seem unable to answer, ELO.

Are you a child?

your post isn’t very clearly written, but by way of reply, yes, I engaged in a debate about whether “to gatekeep” is a commonly used verb. Judging by the failure of anyone to provide a single example, i is would say I’ve won this one.