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Kellie-Jay Keen (AKA Posie Parker) appreciation thread

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TotallyTERF · 25/10/2022 18:35

I just love this woman! She undoubtedly has the Midas touch when it comes to marketing and publicity.

I have been to several of her events over the years, and she has time for each and every woman who comes to see her.

Any other fans here?

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Datun · 14/01/2023 10:41

RufusthefIoraImissingreindeer · 14/01/2023 10:19

I like helleofabores posts

Sometimes I read a post, think helleofabore is going to take that apart and then i just sit and wait for helles take down...sometimes I get myself a coffee

It's a bit like lass did back in the day...someone mention prostitution (or trousers being more comfortable than skirts) and you could pretty much count down from 10 and she'd be there

Or ...the name escapes me, she had a baby and left ...someone mentioning chromosomes and 5, 4 ,3 ,2 ,1 she was there with her incredible scientific mind

(Works with lots of posters I don't agree with as well 😀)

Yes, was it bowl of babelfish or something? We called her baby ramekin.

Sometimes I read a post, think helleofabore is going to take that apart and then i just sit and wait for helles take down...sometimes I get myself a coffee

Yep 😁

Helleofabore · 14/01/2023 10:39

And I am embarrassed because so many of you do the same thing as me.

Helleofabore · 14/01/2023 10:37

Thank you.

I say while hiding in embarrassment because I only do it for my own selfish need of finding truth in the mess we find ourselves in. And that, I know, is what so many of us seek. The truth and the facts without the shaming and the emotional manipulation!

Now, I am off to see what KJK is up to. This weekend is the event where the anarchists have sent out notifications for the counter protest. I wish all those attending safety while enjoying the company of those who have come to listen to the amazing women who speak.

Maybe we will have posters come through with who are KJK’s handlers (they obviously have never met KJ if they honestly believe she is ‘handled’) and who those problematic people are she ‘associates’ with.

DialSquare · 14/01/2023 10:36

For all the supposed pompous twaddle Helle posts, not one of the genderists can dispute her posts. They just follow up with unsubstantiated claims, mantras and insults.

RufusthefIoraImissingreindeer · 14/01/2023 10:19

I like helleofabores posts

Sometimes I read a post, think helleofabore is going to take that apart and then i just sit and wait for helles take down...sometimes I get myself a coffee

It's a bit like lass did back in the day...someone mention prostitution (or trousers being more comfortable than skirts) and you could pretty much count down from 10 and she'd be there

Or ...the name escapes me, she had a baby and left ...someone mentioning chromosomes and 5, 4 ,3 ,2 ,1 she was there with her incredible scientific mind

(Works with lots of posters I don't agree with as well 😀)

SinnerBoy · 14/01/2023 10:01

That's a concise summary, @Helleofabore I wonder what rubbish EOL will write next?

Datun · 14/01/2023 09:41

Helleofabore · 14/01/2023 09:23

I laugh when posts such as “You don't 'alf post a load of pompous twaddle” pop up. Because either they haven’t worked out that the FWR regulars see the pattern of posting or they think that this pattern will somehow be convincing to anyone new reading. Even just the few hours the post lasts.

Even posters who are regularly disagreeing with us must by now recognise the pattern and now avoid agreeing with these posts after being caught a few times in the past.

Crack on Lunar. And welcome to Mumsnet!

You drive them mad Helle. A woman who forensically dissects an argument, will read all their dubious links and analyse them in detail, can detect the unmistakable whiff of misogyny at fifty paces and has a near photographic memory.

All they have left is insults.

MiladeeBeserko · 14/01/2023 09:34

Posie doesn't half get up TRA noses eh?

Datun · 14/01/2023 09:32

FOJN · 14/01/2023 09:23

Forensic dissection of a smear campaign = pompous?

Hello only missed one bit; resort to insults when you have no argument.

I get it now - basically loads of you lot fancy her!

Are we supposed to be offended by the suggestion we're all lesbians? I can't oblige I'm afraid, I'm not a lesbian and not offended by anyone thinking I might be because I'm not homophobic.

I know, right! They're incapable of reading a room.

FOJN · 14/01/2023 09:23

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Forensic dissection of a smear campaign = pompous?

Hello only missed one bit; resort to insults when you have no argument.

I get it now - basically loads of you lot fancy her!

Are we supposed to be offended by the suggestion we're all lesbians? I can't oblige I'm afraid, I'm not a lesbian and not offended by anyone thinking I might be because I'm not homophobic.

Helleofabore · 14/01/2023 09:23

I laugh when posts such as “You don't 'alf post a load of pompous twaddle” pop up. Because either they haven’t worked out that the FWR regulars see the pattern of posting or they think that this pattern will somehow be convincing to anyone new reading. Even just the few hours the post lasts.

Even posters who are regularly disagreeing with us must by now recognise the pattern and now avoid agreeing with these posts after being caught a few times in the past.

Crack on Lunar. And welcome to Mumsnet!

beastlyslumber · 14/01/2023 09:14

Excellent summary @Helleofabore Thank you for your detail-oriented mind!

Helleofabore · 14/01/2023 09:13

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I believe you have tried this tactic before. I always wonder when you will turn up.

PomegranateOfPersephone · 14/01/2023 09:08

Great summary @Helleofabore

FOJN · 14/01/2023 09:08

<pops head in>

Ah I see KJK is still being maligned on the thread set up for us to express our appreciation.

< Slips out to ponder the state of the nation's reading comprehension>

Lunar67 · 14/01/2023 09:03

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Helleofabore · 14/01/2023 08:56

SinnerBoy · 14/01/2023 04:03

Poor old ELO and their ignoring the evidence.

It is a sight to see the pivots and twists that they go through. So after admitting that despite the constant assertion of being ‘platformed’ with a Holocaust denier that there is no evidence, that person, one who posted about their profession of 25 years on a thread they started, then posts they believe wiki and biased media without ever verifying (seriously, my teen has been taught at school to never do that!!!).

Then, armed with the miniscule bit of information - that KJK has a theology degree, writes that she must be an evangelical type of Christian or even just Christian because they used a slur. When she clearly has stated numerous times that she is an atheist.

Then it becomes about her lack of a ‘career’! And more about her ‘handlers’ being the driving force- her just being a puppet. Seriously getting into misogynistic territory here!

Then it became about her looks and her charisma! How fucking misogynistic could that then get.

I did love the attempt to plant a seed of doubt with painting her as an extremist, and one who might switch sides!

That progression was such a great live demonstration by someone who seems to live in a carefully curated bubble and seems to believe only the ‘safe’ sources.

Yet those ‘safe’ sources are some of the least trustworthy in the country’s media and they publish clickbait articles bordering on propaganda, and get away with it because they are ‘opinion’ pieces and not investigative journalism.

And it is also a great demonstration of how Wikipedia has long been the domain for attracting particular interest groups as ‘editors’ around some topics. Groups not interested in balanced views or even simply stating facts.

I am sure that readers picked up the inconsistencies. The absolute pedantic mess over a widely used term, to the constant, doubling down using ‘platformed with a Holocaust denier’ with no evidence at all.

There is a particular personality type of people who do this.

Either way, I doubt any poster or reader is left thinking ELO is posting in good faith.

Wellies54 · 14/01/2023 08:55

Do you ever look back at history and think, how would I have reacted? For example, would I have been a suffragette, a suffragist or done nothing? It's easy to speculate and view ourselves in a positive light in regard to how brave or outspoken we would have been. Right now in the battle to preserve Women's Rights Kellie -Jay is one of those rare, brave people who puts thoughts into action and stands up for what is right knowing the sacrifice she is making, knowing that every horrible slur that could be thrown at her will be said repeatedly, knowing that everything she does will be twisted by TRAs. She is prepared to put her head above the parapet for all women and girls and take the hate. All she is doing is saying 'sex matters'. That's it. Nothing more, nothing sinister. I have faith that enough people with common sense will eventually wake up and see this but without KJK and the few other brave people like JKR and Graham Linehan who could easily sit back and say nothing, but choose to sacrifice so much, we would be sleep walking into the wholesale destruction of women's rights.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 14/01/2023 08:40

EastLondonObserver · 13/01/2023 22:05

I get it now - basically loads of you lot fancy her!

Dont be silly

beastlyslumber · 14/01/2023 08:12

Another thing I appreciate about KJK is how calm and collected she is when confronted by absolute idiots. She never loses it. It's so impressive.

Her interview with Harrop still fills me with joy whenever I watch it. She is magnificent.

SinnerBoy · 14/01/2023 04:03

Poor old ELO and their ignoring the evidence.

SapphireSeptember · 14/01/2023 00:47

Babdoc · 25/10/2022 18:48

Yes, me. I admire her strength and confidence- she gives no fucks, takes no prisoners, and is never intimidated by the TRAs. She is very plain speaking, has no truck with pronouns or “be kind” and her events give a voice to ordinary women all over the UK.
My DD called her phone in, and Kellie Jay actually remembered her from the Edinburgh rally (DD runs Gender Critical Autistics on FB) and was really welcoming.
She is running a successful business off the back of this, with gc and feminist merchandise, but I don’t begrudge her that. The products seem well made - DD and I have mugs and t shirts. The more sunlight and publicity she can generate, the better.

Bloody hell! I know this comment is quite old, but I'm a member of Gender Critical Autistics. There's a few groups on Facebook where I see the same names (an autism group, GC and rad fem ones, and Harry Potter) and the autism one I'm in, despite not being openly GC, doesn't ban people for expressing such views, which is nice.

Anyway, to the topic at hand. Kellie-Jay is awesome. I like the way she talks about putting aside our differences in order to fight this nasty insidious ideology that's hurting women and children. It's that simple. I think of the cross party group of MPs who are against it, and the members of the House of Lords and Scottish and Welsh parliament, all from different political parties. If they can do it then so can we.
She's also bloody brave, dogged, and has given other women the courage to speak up, including me. It was her video after the JK Rowling nonsense really kicked off that made me break my silence. I'm going to Speaker's Corner this year, for the first time. It needs to be done. It's like a pilgrimage.

RedAndBlueStripedGolfingUmbrella · 14/01/2023 00:25

Bingo
Finally got around to how lovely her hair is, and bootiful and how any one who doesn't agree and bow down is just well jel 😂
Think that's near enough a full house 😁

PomegranateOfPersephone · 13/01/2023 23:37

Datun · 13/01/2023 23:32

I don't know who. It's brilliant though. No wonder all these twits are so jealous of her.

And her hair...

...nails

Yes indeed she is a force to be reckoned with, beautiful and glamorous too. She also has so much energy! As you say only natural that there would be jealousy. I am excited to see her projects for 2023 come to fruition.

Datun · 13/01/2023 23:32

PomegranateOfPersephone · 13/01/2023 19:03

Who is the artist? I love this it is beautiful.

I don't know who. It's brilliant though. No wonder all these twits are so jealous of her.

And her hair...

...nails

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