Kellie-Jay Keen (AKA Posie Parker) appreciation thread

Even worse than that she is opposed to locking female prisoners in cells with male prisoners, some of whom have been convicted of violent and sexual offences against women!

Makes me wonder about what those making defamatory statements about her stand for 🤔

Just as hypocritical to declare that silencing women through deplatforming and intimidation tactics is wonderfully democratic. When it is totalitarian. But nothing like the destabilization of the established meanings of language to twist it to prove your point.

Legal activity- yes.
Wonderfully democratic- preventing women from being heard and not actively debating to show the errors of thinking and convince others… only if you believe totalitarianism is to be applauded.

Once you see the lack of logic, you cannot unsee it.

I think it's quite funny that artix and suggestions are doing exactly the same thing as the woman did in her speech - comparing their opponents' tactics to fascism. And yet, for some reason, it makes her antisemitic, but not them.

This is the whole point of free speech, people discuss.

id like to know why it was anti semitism and id also like to know why she should be arrested

thats for margarita and artix

Even the Pink News article doesn't support the accusations of antisemitism. I'm sure they tried to make it do so, but anyone with basic comprehension skills can see that's not what she said.
Is Michael Rosen's poem about fascism supporting fascism? According to some on here it is. Maybe they'd better tell him

I don't like KJK's approach to everything but allowing women to speak? Nah, no problem with that.

Gosh, Posie has some shocking views. She is opposed to giving young healthy women mastectomies and hysterectomies and she's not greatly in favour of removing the testicles and inverting the penises of young men. What a monster!

Who? and for what reason, Pie?

You seem to have had a big night of trying to vilify Kellie Jay and seem to be suffering some major disconnect.

Happy to do.

Posie is fabulous. Transideology is nonsense. Transwomen are not women. TRAs are jealous losers

She is. I don't think many historical analogies to illustrate the issues with G ideology are particularly useful, especially anything relating to hitler or the holocaust though.

Direct links to how historical CSA has occurred or medical fuck ups are more effective.

Her specialism is hypnosis and she would have been better using analogies there or from 1984 etc.

A faux pas in the sense of giving other people too much credit and assuming a level of understanding and fair play that just isn't present? Perhaps.

Do you also condemn every other person - academic, journalist, writer, political analyst etc - that has ever written about the same thing? For example the absolute plethora of people who used the same explanation of the concept in relation to Donald Trump, or Boris Johnson and many others?

*MargaritaPie · Today 00:57

Has she been arrested and/or charged yet?

Have you been imprisoned for punching puppies yet?

Oink news love that lmao. That is such a sad rag it should be illegal for them to use the word "news" in their name.

The woman speaking was clearly talking about the effects of propaganda on a population when authoritarians do everything they can to shut everyone else up.

What, for talking in public? If anything happened to KJK about 50 women would replace her. There is no way to get the Genie back in the Bottle, women are pretty easy going, but if you push too hard on the boundaries there to protect us and children we will fight and not back down. I know so many women who are furious but aren’t on the streets, but it looks like this the year that parents and mothers in particular have really had enough.

Oink News can demonize women, so what? No one believes a word they say anyway.

Has she been arrested and/or charged yet?

Er, nope. And it's not even that far back, given that it was discussed a couple of hours ago.

All 25 pages?

Could someone kindly post a tl-dr of the discussion so far?

RTFT Pie. That's been posted and done already, jeez.

www.thepinknews.com/2023/01/16/newcastle-let-women-speak-rally-adolt-hitler-trans-speech/

Great friends she has.

/s

we are all pretty dumb really.

Nah

@suggestionsplease1 sorry, just to be clear what you're saying here is that KJK is just like Hitler in what she says and that her arguments and rhetoric are as dangerous and wrong? Or are you making some other point here?

Otherwise it just seems like you want to shout Hitler! Nazis! all the time when people say things you don't like.

That's pretty simplistic isn't it?

Persuasive and powerful speakers can convince others to abominable actions with their rhetoric in the right circumstances; we are all pretty dumb really. And we can all shift values in the right contexts, and subsequently perceive and justify our new values as reasonable.

I am sure Hitler for eg. had very persuasive arguments for the majority population he wanted to appeal to. I am sure many said he had great, necessary ideas to address the perceived problems of that time. Probably not the Jewish & minority populations that his rhetoric was targeted against, however.

Everyone should be able to publicly air their views. I may not like them. I may find some abhorrent but by not allowing those with unsavoury or not politically in line with current thought to speak publicly you drive those people underground where their dubious thought processes can flourish unfettered and away from public scrutiny and opinion.

I'd much prefer them say out loud so as to have a chance to debate the points and to find out why they thought that way and to see if they could be persuaded to think differently.