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Kellie-Jay Keen (AKA Posie Parker) appreciation thread

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TotallyTERF · 25/10/2022 18:35

I just love this woman! She undoubtedly has the Midas touch when it comes to marketing and publicity.

I have been to several of her events over the years, and she has time for each and every woman who comes to see her.

Any other fans here?

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Hepwo · 20/01/2023 16:37

I love listening to Kellie-Jay. She's a delight.
The fact that she gets up the noses of TRAs is wonderful.

Datun · 20/01/2023 16:31

EastLondonObserver · 20/01/2023 15:39

I've watched all of the OJ response. It's all moral panic guff. Massive exaggeration and scaremongering.

It is classic fascist stuff - picking on a small minority and making them out to be a pernicious sexual and moral danger way out of proportion to any actual "threat".

Haha!

TRAs are now forced to acknowledge that yes all these things are true, but honest gov, it's not much.

It's only all the women who have to come in contact with a rapist in prison, it's only all the women who never get to win anymore, or wrongly come second, or third, it's only all the women who can't go to communal changing rooms or go swimming, it's only all the women who are being spat at and threatened, it's only all the girls, thousands upon thousands of them, who are being sent to gender clinics.

People like ELO can only think of the man in this situation. They can't drag their eyes of him for even a nanosecond. The numerous women don't get to even swim into focus.

Boiledbeetle · 20/01/2023 16:29

DialSquare · 20/01/2023 16:17

Don't get ELO's hopes up Boiled!

Poor boy, he's got It bad for her hasn't he.😁

DialSquare · 20/01/2023 16:17

Don't get ELO's hopes up Boiled!

PomegranateOfPersephone · 20/01/2023 16:15

DarkDayforMN · 20/01/2023 13:32

Also I didn't realise that Hitler was the ultimate example of how taking domestic abuse seriously prevents violent men from taking their violence to the public sphere.

The rise of Hitler and the Nazis wasn’t inevitable — there were likely a few historical off-ramps. Hitler’s niece, who had been living with him, and with whom he had been rumored to be in a romantic relationship, was found dead with a gunshot wound in her lung. The death was not seriously investigated before being declared a suicide, but it is not hard to imagine that had this been investigated or become a scandal, it could have stopped Hitler’s personal ascent.

For anyone interested in further reading on this phenomenon

blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/Home-Grown-by-Joan-Smith/9781787476066

Makes me think about the Miriam Cates thread too actually, and others- men who have a propensity to violence in word and deed against women, children, animals are at risk of escalating to acts of terrorism against society in general, they are a risk to everyone, men, women and children.

Boiledbeetle · 20/01/2023 16:14

DialSquare · 20/01/2023 16:10

ELO reminds me of the little boy in primary school who just can't help pulling the hair of the girl he likes.

Ooh I had one of those in little school he used to pull my pigtails. We went out with each other in high school!

DialSquare · 20/01/2023 16:10

MrsOvertonsWindow · 20/01/2023 16:07

I see KJK is still firmly lodged in ELO's head Grin - although I thought they'd flounced some days ago - or was that the other mn.argue bots?

ELO reminds me of the little boy in primary school who just can't help pulling the hair of the girl he likes.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 20/01/2023 16:07

I see KJK is still firmly lodged in ELO's head Grin - although I thought they'd flounced some days ago - or was that the other mn.argue bots?

beastlyslumber · 20/01/2023 16:00

There's a lot of people who can rant for 15 mins, there are far fewer who can win debates.

Oh please please please get LOJ to debate her! Or anyone! Anyone from your side. Did you see she offered LOJ a grand for any charity of his choice just to agree to debate her? He doesn't even have to win! A grand! Surely he can't refuse.

Why don't YOU debate her, ELO? Or any of the TRAs on this thread?

By the way, it was interesting that LOJ had to read his rant off a script, whereas KJK simply spoke from her heart. Wasn't that interesting? I thought so, anyway.

Boiledbeetle · 20/01/2023 15:57

EastLondonObserver · 20/01/2023 15:47

Why? Because more people will consume the whole 'story arc' she wants to communicate.

She seems very sure she's some sort of debate maestro, but I'm not seeing she's an especially good communicator here. There's a lot of people who can rant for 15 mins, there are far fewer who can win debates.

You think THAT was ranting? A WOMAN talking about what this shit show is going to actually mean for women, and shock horror she was passionate about her subject matter?

Wow. I'm sorry, I didn't realise you'd had a sheltered life.

DaughterOfPsychiatrist · 20/01/2023 15:51

EastLondonObserver · 20/01/2023 15:36

I would expect it to be at least as competent as the average YouTuber, but it's not. She should check out the vids on how to make a more concise video.

You do make me laugh!

Middle aged mums aren’t the most successful group of YouTubers, this is true.

So why on earth would you expect KJK, a stay at home mother of four, to be comparable to say, Markiplier?

Besides, all the successful YouTubers have teams of employees nowadays.

Next you’ll be criticising KJK for not playing computer games while streaming 🤣

DarkDayforMN · 20/01/2023 15:50

There's a lot of people who can rant for 15 mins, there are far fewer who can win debates.

oooh, do you think Owen Jones could beat her in a debate? Please write to him and encourage him.

DarkDayforMN · 20/01/2023 15:48

Posted in succession just up the page:

  • I'm still waiting for the first TRA to make rational arguments and not resort to insults and guilt by association remarks.
  • [link to KJK video]
  • That video is amateur hour - overly long, incoherent, lacking a clear point, packed with childish ad hom guff. She's the female Milo Yiannopoulos, except he's a better speaker.

😁 I think you'll be waiting a while, OneMorePlant!

EastLondonObserver · 20/01/2023 15:47

Boiledbeetle · 20/01/2023 15:39

You are missing the point.

She doesn't need to.

We can ask perfectly understand her words and what she means without all the brass knobs and wankery.

She took her time going through various scenarios. Why the fuck should she aim to be consise? It's not the football scores. It's bloody women's lives.

Why? Because more people will consume the whole 'story arc' she wants to communicate.

She seems very sure she's some sort of debate maestro, but I'm not seeing she's an especially good communicator here. There's a lot of people who can rant for 15 mins, there are far fewer who can win debates.

suggestionsplease1 · 20/01/2023 15:45

DaughterOfPsychiatrist · 20/01/2023 12:05

If only there were some plucky, blue haired students with megaphones to intervene, eh?

Well of course there was the student led White Rose who bravely spoke out but many of them and their followers were executed.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Rose

TheClogLady · 20/01/2023 15:45

EastLondonObserver · 20/01/2023 15:39

I've watched all of the OJ response. It's all moral panic guff. Massive exaggeration and scaremongering.

It is classic fascist stuff - picking on a small minority and making them out to be a pernicious sexual and moral danger way out of proportion to any actual "threat".

You should watch the video she did against fascism next. It’s probably only one or two away from OJ on the playlist.

Hepwo · 20/01/2023 15:44

It is classic fascist stuff - picking on a small minority and making them out to be a pernicious sexual and moral danger way out of proportion to any actual "threat".

When did men become a small minority?

And when did small groups get an exemption? There aren't that many policemen are there? Is it fascist to pick on them?

Don't bother answering, I'm over listening to nonsense.

Boiledbeetle · 20/01/2023 15:39

We can all not ask

EastLondonObserver · 20/01/2023 15:39

NecessaryScene · 20/01/2023 15:30

I'd be fascinated to hear your view of the Owen Jones one, as a comparator.

(Not that I believe you've watched either, by the way, but I'm interested in what you'd say).

I've watched all of the OJ response. It's all moral panic guff. Massive exaggeration and scaremongering.

It is classic fascist stuff - picking on a small minority and making them out to be a pernicious sexual and moral danger way out of proportion to any actual "threat".

Boiledbeetle · 20/01/2023 15:39

EastLondonObserver · 20/01/2023 15:36

I would expect it to be at least as competent as the average YouTuber, but it's not. She should check out the vids on how to make a more concise video.

You are missing the point.

She doesn't need to.

We can ask perfectly understand her words and what she means without all the brass knobs and wankery.

She took her time going through various scenarios. Why the fuck should she aim to be consise? It's not the football scores. It's bloody women's lives.

EastLondonObserver · 20/01/2023 15:36

TheClogLady · 20/01/2023 15:32

Of course it’s ‘amateur hour’

KJK is a one woman phenomenon working out of her home office, did you assume she was a proper TV presenter ELO? One with a technical team and teleprompter? 🤣

You are a big dafty!

Anyway, thank fuck for have-a-go-heroines, eh? Can’t sit around waiting for the BBC to platform us, so best to get on and DIY.

I would expect it to be at least as competent as the average YouTuber, but it's not. She should check out the vids on how to make a more concise video.

TheClogLady · 20/01/2023 15:32

Of course it’s ‘amateur hour’

KJK is a one woman phenomenon working out of her home office, did you assume she was a proper TV presenter ELO? One with a technical team and teleprompter? 🤣

You are a big dafty!

Anyway, thank fuck for have-a-go-heroines, eh? Can’t sit around waiting for the BBC to platform us, so best to get on and DIY.

NecessaryScene · 20/01/2023 15:30

I'd be fascinated to hear your view of the Owen Jones one, as a comparator.

(Not that I believe you've watched either, by the way, but I'm interested in what you'd say).

EastLondonObserver · 20/01/2023 15:27

That video is amateur hour - overly long, incoherent, lacking a clear point, packed with childish ad hom guff.

She's the female Milo Yiannopoulos, except he's a better speaker.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/01/2023 15:01

Her reply to OJ is blistering stuff.

It's the most powerful video of hers I've seen.