Starmer asked about women's rights & EI

MariEllie · Today 20:51
Do we really want our human rights junked?

www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2022/10/25/when-question-time-eddie-izzard-woman/

Thank you for posting that article. Imagine the BBC being so lacking in impartiality, and being so stupid and thoughtless that they had Eddie Izzard on Question Time as one of only two women on the panel.

Do we really want our human rights junked?

www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2022/10/25/when-question-time-eddie-izzard-woman/

The main thing I would say about Wallis is that he's small potatoes, not likely to have any meaningful political career. Not likely to have any real influence on policy.

Funny you should mention the Romans. All week I've had an earworm from "Seven Brides for Seven Brothers", those Sobbin' Women with their Roman babies, saying "some day, women folk'll have rights". And i've been wondering if the lyricist, Johnny Mercer, wanted his 1954 audience to think that yes, now, they do. Or was more suggesting that no, they didn't. And whether he felt that they should, or was one of those keep us in our place guys.

Its male supremacism.

It's all fig leafed with a lot of incoherent whining about social justice (for some, sometimes, don't look at that bit, I identify as it being social justice etc etc etc) but it's just boring old male supremacism.

Here's the 22st century, same as the 1st century when the bloody Romans arrived.

Long long ago, in my salad days, when I was green in judgement, and read Spare Rib when I could find where the newsagent had hidden it to alter that state, there was an argument explaining why ordinary "decent" men did not protect women more from the men who were not. It was, said the argument, in the interests of all men to have a few predators around to restrict women from taking a full part in society. I wasn't wholly convinced.
But now someone has come up with a way not only to keep us in our place, but prevent us complaining, even talking among ourselves about those predators, men like Starmer, whom I had previously thought was on the right side, have publicly joined in, and I am compelled to think that argument was true.
Making "misgendering" a crime will be much more effective than the "nag's" bridle ever was. Rosie Duffield needs to keep away from the "Weavers" by the river in her constituency, where there is still a ducking stool.

Yep!

Now that’s a slogan I can get behind @TeaAndStrumpets - “Keir Starmer, Woman Harmer” hits the nail on the head

But Starmer must know, or know off many trans young people simply because of the area in which he lives. Apart from anything else he lives so close to the Tavistock. He’s a good local MP and I’m sure has helped many of their families. Just because he knows families with trans children on a personal or professional level doesn’t mean he has to make Labour policies that TWAW. Surely Labour should be about the class rather than the individual?

It is a real problem that many adults now know children (females?) who are/have transitioned in some way. But in order to see the big picture these adults need to put aside their individual relationships, but that is hard. The other problem is that it is mainly girls who are transitioning which is enabling men to trample on the rights of women and girls.

This is why I cannot vote Labour

Well yeah, neither would mine if she was that age.
What about all the other girls though? Do they not matter.

Yes I'm aware I'm starting to sound "wont somebody think of the children"

But seems it has to be said.

Mine either.

But who is going to protect the daughters of women still naive to this?

One such brownie leader, a TW, has pictures on social media of them posing in uniform with guns.

Fgs how many red flags do people need?

When I was a student I marched against Maggie Thatcher, Milk Snatcher.

I am quite prepared to march against Keir Starmer, Woman Harmer.

One girl who wouldn’t be joining that guide group - my daughter.

One girl who wouldn’t be joining that guide group - my daughter.

I have worked in an organization where a married man with 2 children, decided to alter his appearance through the use of surgery and drugs, so as to live more ‘authentically’ as a woman.

This is a familiar scenario. How did his wife and children cope with this?

www.transwidowsvoices.org/
childrenoftransitioners.org/

You haven't understood the issue.
To continue with your married man dressing in skirts example ...
He becomes a brownie leader and goes away with them on campingvtrips expecting to sleep in their room and help them with dressing. He takes them swimming and changes into his costume in front of them.
Starmer says anyone who has an issue with this is transphobic and wrong.

And before you say this would never happen guide leaders have been sacked for raising the alarm when this actually happened.

Yes this was part of the issues I was thinking of, although I don’t think Jamie has any official photographs other than wearing suits. So EI would be a novelty being elected presenting to the public as a trans woman.

And this is why so many of us can’t vote Labour and would prefer to not vote at all if necessary. He has decided to die on this hill and I just can’t die alongside him.

Wallis only came out as trans after he crashed his car wearing (according to witnesses in this Daily Mail article) a mini skirt and high heels. I'm not sure if that counts as a caricature of a woman or just a plain old transvestite.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11001635/Tory-MP-Jamie-Wallis-faces-trial-today-accused-driving-offences-smashing-lamppost.html

Re: the Labour Party and Stephen Kinnock’s trans gender adult child.

The issues should be separate though. An individual’s choice as an adult should not mean that our language is changed so it no longer relates to women; that ‘gender identities should be taught in schools, or affirmed even with very young children; that women and girls should no longer be able to play their own sports, have their own shortlists, or refuges, changing rooms, lavatories. Or that list of women’s crimes include crimes by men.

No way in hell I'd vote for labour whilst they can't tell biological sex from fantasy. Luckily, my family and friends think the same.

@OldCrone Jamie Wallis had not decided On being a trans woman when elected. Also it would be fair to say that Jamie has a lot of issues and doesn’t present as a caricature of a woman (unless google is lying to me).