She played the piano with her penis

I do find the 'transaction' videos on YouTube funny and cleverer than the song

I did too. Perhaps because there are other people involved so it's not just narcissistic monologuing.

But nudity on post-watershed shows is still warned for. As seen on twitter, here's the All4 guidance for Friday Night Live, and the guidance for episodes of other shows that have featured nudity. Spot the odd one out.

That's bad.

The trans movement is so focused on putting the individual and their special feelings at the centre that there really is very little except confected 'I'm so marginalised' feelings or shock tactics, pushing boundaries and aggression to keep them feeling engaged in the 'struggle''. They're desperate for people in what is actually an incredibly liberal society to hate them so they have something to push against. Jordan Grey's whole act is based on being trans ( I do find the 'transaction' videos on YouTube funny and cleverer than the song) but once all the jokes have been made it all gets very boring.

This.

Dear god. My local road sweeper would be more interesting to listen to.

International women's day is just insulting.

Oh my goodness - what did those poor children do to deserve this?! Tedious doesn't even begin to cover it. (And on international women's day!!!) What struck me is just how boring this whole 'trans rights movement ' is. Women's rights, gay rights, civil rights, there are so many fascinating stories of inspirational characters who sacrificed a great deal and focused on making life better for others. The trans movement is so focused on putting the individual and their special feelings at the centre that there really is very little except confected 'I'm so marginalised' feelings or shock tactics, pushing boundaries and aggression to keep them feeling engaged in the 'struggle''. They're desperate for people in what is actually an incredibly liberal society to hate them so they have something to push against. Jordan Grey's whole act is based on being trans ( I do find the 'transaction' videos on YouTube funny and cleverer than the song) but once all the jokes have been made it all gets very boring.

Have Channel 4 responded to the criticism and furore at all? Has Ben Elton made any mention?

But nudity on post-watershed shows is still warned for. As seen on twitter, here's the All4 guidance for Friday Night Live, and the guidance for episodes of other shows that have featured nudity. Spot the odd one out.

👆this

That "right side of history" has some vile people on it doesn't it?

Warning - links contain details of criminal offences and how indecent exposure is a gateway crime to murder:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/378f75fe-517a-11ed-9137-92183a3ffe2c?shareToken=e4b8a7e19f244b6319b765b9ad9375bd

rapecrisis.org.uk/get-informed/types-of-sexual-violence/what-is-indecent-exposure-or-flashing/#:~:text=The%20Sexual%20Offences%20Act%202003,to%20two%20years%20in%20prison.

Nudity on Post-watershed TV shows isn't anything new.

Anyone remember Eurotrash?

Careful Hooty, my first ever deletion was for the exact phrase "hurty feelz". I enquired and was told it was "not in the spirit". The rules are, it seems to me, arbitrary and inconsistently applied

Apparently they visit schools for education purposes and are about to open a show at the london palladium I think .

How odd. I said something the same upthread and it was left to stand.

What's the criteria?

Hurty feelz?

well I was deleted for using sex based pronouns re Eddie Izard, despite their stating they're not bothered so anythings possible

Yeah no

My comment was deleted - is it because I said he about a man with a penis? Genuinely confused by this.

Sorry MN, it’s almost as offensive as..I don’t know..someone flashing?

better than us at being hairless too😆

'top surgery' (implants or mastectomy) is relatively straightforward for either sex.

Do you know much about double mastectomies? They are not comparable to 'implants' in nature or risk of life limiting effects.

It’s just male entitlement.

Entitled to be the centre of attention.
Entitled to call themselves women.
Entitled to get their cocks out.

Isn’t it funny that all these TW claim their penises give them dysphoria but wang their willies out at every opportunity, usually to try to harass, oppress or threaten a woman. Almost like they’re men, and always will be

Mastectomy is not relatively straightforward.

Sticking in implants which can be removed later is not the same as cutting of healthy body parts which can’t be replaced.

that's possibly a tad unfair? the right medication gives a biological male a vaguely female-looking upper body outline and 'top surgery' (implants or mastectomy) is relatively straightforward for either sex. whereas 'bottom surgery', for either sex, is invasive and can only ever give you a very crude, not really functional, approximation of what the other sex has.

I don’t think it’s satire; he’s just saying to the wider public the kind of repulsive shit they say to each other on trans forums.

I agree. A lot of women can be a bit slow on the uptake about this though can’t they?

They’ll twist around, intellectually contorting themselves, creating whole back-stories of clever - you had us all going there- rationale. Anything but admit what is staring them in the face.

I just want to say.

Women. You are the butt of the damn joke. Stop gormlessly laughing along.