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She played the piano with her penis

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NotRightNowNo · 23/10/2022 17:16

So I am told anyway. I can't bring myself to watch it. Has anyone been brave enough?

Can't seem to link to the article. It's in the DM

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1982mommaof4 · 23/10/2022 22:08

Sugarsandwiches · 23/10/2022 19:09

Just read the lyrics on Twitter. Attached.

Wow

UrsulaPandress · 23/10/2022 21:59

@Unsure33

They can put me on the wall.

NotTerfNorCis · 23/10/2022 21:55

I've seen it. The song and the flashing were both grim. It doesn't do the cause of trans activism any good at all, but TRAs can't see it. They're twisting themselves in knots to defend it.

geraniumsandsunshine · 23/10/2022 21:54

How in this world can gender be a protected characteristic, yet anyone can just claim to be another gender. It's so wrong and why aren't politicians doing anything. Fear?

Also, people who know more than me, is the whole movement as much as a problem in America. Given they've just effectively tried to ban abortion (Uber conservative) I can't believe this crap would happen

Caroffee · 23/10/2022 21:54

Why delete my post? Somebody said exactly the same thing before me. Mumsnet moderation at its finest 🙄

geraniumsandsunshine · 23/10/2022 21:52

Sugarsandwiches · 23/10/2022 19:09

Just read the lyrics on Twitter. Attached.

Wow. Disgusting. Yes this is a perverse man.

1982mommaof4 · 23/10/2022 21:50

quantumbutterfly · 23/10/2022 17:32

her penis....what a marvellous time we live in

🫣😬

Unsure33 · 23/10/2022 21:49

Unfortunately if we have a general election and Starmer gets in we won’t have threads like this and the LAW will define this as hate speech .

so while I am still able to do so I will say I find the fact that channel 4 and others are referring to her as a woman and celebrating her actions ,and praising the words of the songs, very offensive . The nudity less so .
having fake boobs and wearing makeup does not make a him a woman . IMO

Bluekerfuffle · 23/10/2022 21:39

What annoys me more than the charming individual in question is the fact that the newspaper goes along with referring to him as her and moderates comments on any article about this sort of thing.

Somanysocks · 23/10/2022 21:38

I'm perpetually amazed at how people can be so thick to believe that a man can become a woman.

It will NEVER be possible.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 23/10/2022 21:35

Prometheus · 23/10/2022 21:31

We were watching with my 12 year old son. Had to explain about how some men pretend to be women and we just have to pretend to accept it so we don’t say the wrong thing at school and get expelled.

I do the same with my child. He understands no one can change their biological sex.

NotRightNowNo · 23/10/2022 21:33

Exactly raspberry

I'm womaning all wrong obviously, i don't do anal and I have saggy tits. So glad there was a person with a penis around to point that out to me. Hilarious.

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MrsTruss · 23/10/2022 21:32

Balhammom · 23/10/2022 20:59

Can see this is pretty niche but surely the answer is not to watch it or to turn over. By the sound of things, there are plenty of people who enjoyed the show and her performance so I guess it’s horses for courses!

He is not a her - he has a dick.

Prometheus · 23/10/2022 21:31

We were watching with my 12 year old son. Had to explain about how some men pretend to be women and we just have to pretend to accept it so we don’t say the wrong thing at school and get expelled.

inappropriateraspberry · 23/10/2022 21:29

How can he say he's a woman and in the next breath, claim to be better than a woman? So he himself knows he's not a woman, but also doesn't want to be called a man? He's proud of his boobs, and also his penis.
If he believes he's a true woman, then why sing about all of this? Why not do funny songs about other stuff?

UniversalAunt · 23/10/2022 21:21

From The Times’ Jordan Grey article mentioned a few posts above.

“I’m much more proud of being working class and taking a show from a box in Edinburgh to the Palladium than I am of being transgender. I love being transgender, but I think being working class is cooler.”

When she was growing up, her father was a director of a steel factory by day and an Elvis impersonator (“Not singing, just the dancing, the hips. He’s exceptionally good”) by night.

My BiB

Sometimes I just wonder if journalists write with their tongue firmly in cheek 😉,
& the Editors let it through for a laugh.

Tinner01 · 23/10/2022 21:21

“I’m a perfect woman, my tits will never shrink and I do anal by default”. Cos thats what women are all about. They do it to themselves!

emmylousings · 23/10/2022 21:20

PammieDooveOrangeJoof · 23/10/2022 18:52

I missed it at the time thankfully but saw the clip. He actually had a fondle of them too 😩
Surely the more they do stuff like this the more it proves the gc point that they are dick obsessed fetishiists.
If a woman were to do this - fondle her genitals and rub them on a keyboard on live tv she would be dragged off the stage and arrested.

So true. Yet again, in this sphere (trans) men are able to abuse women, and get away with behaviour that women never would. Same old..

JustJustWhy · 23/10/2022 21:20

Balhammom · 23/10/2022 20:59

Can see this is pretty niche but surely the answer is not to watch it or to turn over. By the sound of things, there are plenty of people who enjoyed the show and her performance so I guess it’s horses for courses!

I wasn't expecting niche. I was expecting classic Friday Night Live due to the classic advertising of it all week on the run up to its airing. I didn't enjoy his ranting.

LemonRedwood · 23/10/2022 21:19

Cornettoninja · 23/10/2022 19:31

So being a woman isn’t enough? He wants to be better than a woman?

Admittedly I’m not a psychologist but that doesn’t sound like a trans person to me. That sounds like a very ill person. I think he’s struggling with his whole transition tbh. That tweet further up is spot on. It’s just not the behaviour of someone who is stable.

I used to work with a transwoman and in every conversation it came across that they had transitioned because they believed they were better at being a woman than their wife.

The poor wife 🙁

UrsulaPandress · 23/10/2022 21:18

Friends ‘forced’ me to watch Naked Attraction a few months ago. I was 😱 and had nightmares.

Musomama1 · 23/10/2022 21:13

I'm in two minds about this. It's live, late night and on Channel 4. So why not get your knob out, it's what Channel 4 does right?! I.e. Naked Attraction, Eurotrash back in the day, the girl from L7 on The Word.

But I'm also thinking here's yet another '''trans woman" not really behaving like, well, like a normal person make it female - being an exhibitionist like we have always known fetishist males to be.

And these are the people TRAs are fighting to have access to every place and influence children.

UniversalAunt · 23/10/2022 21:12

On what public service broadcast planet is this entertainment or educational?

’I'm an extremist who believes there's no such thing as a sex change and sex remains the same from conception onwards.’

Well that makes you a rational clear thinking human being on my planet.

Igneococcus · 23/10/2022 21:12

The Times had an interview with Jordan Gray recently. Here, in case anyone wants to read it:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/750eaffe-4fb7-11ed-b120-ca4f3ffbcdc5?shareToken=da2ff4659cadb2b3a513ecbabaef001b

ChlorineChris · 23/10/2022 21:12

I'm really relieved to read this thread as when I followed this on Twitter there was almost unanimous praise for the act, with anyone objecting being told they're ridiculous and as it's Channel 4 and there's things like Naked Attraction yup should just not have watched it.

I feel really dismissed and almost gaslit when there's such a strong push to criticise your boundaries and belittle your concerns. The words of that song were vile. The prancing naked with boobs and penis jiggling was utterly unpleasant, the squishing of the penis on the keys gross and then every congratulatory article referring to them as 'her' and 'she' ......

It just reinforces the the sense that there is NOTHING that I would be allowed to express concern or discomfort about. Being trans is a free pass to be misogynistic and make others uncomfortable, while berating those who complain. Awful.