Non binary/transgender teacher

If Genderism is taught in schools, if the rainbow flag was removed from all materials in the curriculum is that transphobic?

I can’t help but think all this identity stuff should be background stuff that doesn’t interfere with the role someone is playing (teacher!) when they go to work

Agree with this.

Any sort of behaviour where teachers are informal and over-familiar with pupils is rightly regarded as poor judgement, or a low level safeguarding concern. It reduces the professional boundary and also undermines colleagues who maintain professional distance.

If a child feels uncomfortable in a classroom and is unwilling to ask questions or participate for any reason then it's reasonable for a parent to discuss their concerns with the school. In this case, the children need to have a clear, appropriate form of address for a member of staff and know that if they make a mistake then they're not risking being in trouble.

Try this was very clear in your OP.
Some people have made it an issue. Exactly the same way than it happens in many other threads - they only read what they want to read, focus on one small little part if the OP and run away with it.

When I was at primary - vaguely aware if one teacher being married (small town, he had a very visible disability, he knew my dad) the rest? Didn’t know, didn’t care. Was there to learn not validate a sensitive soul. Adults should be adult.

Back when I was at school though, we tended to know almost nothing about our teachers. They were there as teachers and all the stuff in their personal lives just wasn’t part of anything. They most certainly didn’t bring their whole self to work. And it wasn’t really a problem.

I mean, some of them would sometimes mention a husband (mostly in primary school) but actually I cannot recall any of my primary teachers even telling us about their children. tbh, I think most of us almost assumed the teachers only really existed at school. If you saw one at the shops, it was a shock!

Most of the secondary teachers were a black box and the only things we knew about them were largely subject related.

I can’t help but think all this identity stuff should be background stuff that doesn’t interfere with the role someone is playing (teacher!) when they go to work. Recognise that the kids need a simple, clear (single) decision on how they should address you that falls within the conventions used at school. And just view it as that. It’s not the defining feature of you and has no bearing on your personal life whether you make a strategic decision that you’ll be either Sir or Miss at work (or even that you don’t care which the kids use - you’ll answer to either). Or working with the SLT to choose one additional form of address that everyone can use and isn’t specific to your preference (it could be teacher, for example).

the problem comes where the school has to keep investing new, you-specific modes of address that are quite at odds with the conventions. And it inevitably confuses the kids.

The same effect was seen with writing left handed and homosexuality for example.

Being left or right handed, or your sexuality do not determine what toilets, sports, prisons, hospital wards, changing rooms, pronouns, etc to use

Rather a huge difference.

"Indeed, lots of children are caught up in the social contagion of all this"

Perhaps - but there's also an element of trans becoming more recognised as it is seen as socially acceptable and not something to hide.

The same effect was seen with writing left handed and homosexuality for example.

"Pretty pathetic attempt to misquote/decontextualise what I was saying"

Ironic that this is essentially what you did to a pp. Pathetic indeed.

Children really shouldn’t have to be having to deal with this. Scared of misgendering a teacher? Someone in teaching really should centre the students and focus in them and not their own belly button.

At secondary school we had a Mr McQueen. He was usually called Missus McQueen. We’d all have been suspended these days!

Pretty pathetic attempt to misquote/decontextualise what I was saying. Are you always so disingenuous?
if you’re having to effectively lie to get your point across you probably know it holds no water

You missed off the end of that quote.

It said 'performative nascissism'. Children shouldn't be trained on jumping through illlogical hoops demanded by performative narcissists. How is any of this to be benefit of the kids who now don't even know what to call their teacher? This child knows something is wrong here.

Indeed, lots of children are caught up in the social contagion of all this. The new NHS regulations coming in will hopefully help.

Non binary, as a "special" identity is relatively new (obviously androgynous people are not, but there wasnt the title/ pronoun thing in the past). It doesn't come under the Equality Act, which is reassigning "gender" from male to female or visa versa.

The teacher should not be using their first name, unless this is school policy throughout, but I think it's fine to email and ask for a title. It's probably Mx, which is pronounced Mix. If Mx is so special, good luck to them out there.

"Why should we be treating children to tolerate"

Because some of their peers may be trans or questioning their identity etc and school needs to a safe space for all, including trans pupils and staff members...

Why should we be treating children to tolerate performative narcissism? That teacher is there to teach the children that particular subject, not to be validated or use it to “explore their identity”.

Ditto. Children should not be used as props for someone else's fetish/mental health issue/narcissism (whichever applies here).

Tell your child that the person is male, will always be male no matter what they want to call themselves, and it's not a crime to call them "sir".

We cannot teach children to ignore their instincts. It's a safeguarding issue.

When I had a dbs check I had to bring in my birth certificate. Payslip, passport and proof of address fir the last 5 years. And as it was an enhanced DBS, have an interview and get it signed by two referees of good standing. It is up to the organisation if they want to do further checks. I know they also did a social media search. I think we should make lying or omitting information on a DBS illegal. Maybe that would deter those people who try to circumnavigate the rules

Yes the teacher sounds very intolerant to me too

Teachers are not allowed to bring their personal fads and fancies, politics, religion into school with them. They should not impose their lifestyles and beliefs on children, especially young children who can't understand it.

Anyone can withhold information but only trans people can change the sex on their birth certificate and decide to not put their old names on. They are the only people not tracked on sex offenders register for example after a name change.

It is the reason that the activists are so violently opposed to dead naming.

If the DBS system isn't a robust system then it isn't a system. It's a sham.

It is now not worth the paper it comes printed on. Totally destroyed.

But they are. They are supposed to contact the DBS. So there is a system in place.

The fact that they can abuse the system doesn't mean there isn't a system in place.

Unfortunately the reality is that DBS checks rely on people being honest. As I have said repeatedly, anyone can withhold any information they like from their DBS check.

Let's say I changed my name by deed poll. The form requires me to provide my previous name. But no one is watching me fill in the form. So I can just not do it.

That's the nature of a DBS check. It's always been this way.

So it's not a failsafe system, for anyone, and never has been.

I don't disagree. There should be no loopholes in DBS checks whatsoever. Any loopholes that exist should be closed and the process made as robust as possible. DBS checks are a farce and have been for years. I haven't said anything otherwise.

However, believing this to be true does not negate the fact that, contrary to your claims, at the moment there is no loophole within the DBS system that exclusively privileges trans people and allows them the opportunity to circumvent DBS checks more easily than anyone else.

That is simply the point I am making. It is factually inaccurate to claim that transpeople are uniquely able to circumvent the current DBS check system. If the safeguarding alliance's recommendations come to pass, and there is no additional check to compensate for the issue around trans people's birth certificates, then the situation will change. But at the moment, these recommendations aren't in place so they don't apply.

Regardless of what their birth certificate says, trans people are still required to give their previous legal name on their DBS form. There is therefore a process in place to ensure that a thorough check is carried out in this circumstance.

No they are not.

So a rapist 'transitions' in prison and applies for a job at a school. And just puts their new name on the form and applies. Doesn't contact the DBS to inform them of the past name [which is linked to the rape, because duh].

What safeguards are ACTUALLY in place to stop this?

For pities sake.

'For the gallery' (seriously?), there is a current issue with people withholding their previous names in order to circumvent safeguarding. The Government received a petition and the resulting recommendations by the Safeguarding Alliance include DBS applicants producing their birth certificate. They seem to have not considered any issues caused by birth certificates which have been reissued with new information.

So a current loophole, for which attempts are being currently taken to close, will still apply to those who have an amended birth certificate.

When an issue or gap in safeguarding is identified, attempts should be made to close that loophole for everyone