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Near unanimity about pronouns/EI on Radio 4 just now

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 23/10/2022 09:58

Interesting. Broadcasting House currently on air, Radio 4, does a newspaper review at the end. Trevor Phillips has just picked a story about Rosie Duffield refusing to use she/her pronouns for Eddie Izzard. Presenter Paddy O'Connell put the three other people there on the spot and asked them if they would use them, and after a momentary hesitation, they all basically agreed with Trevor Phillips.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 23/10/2022 10:31

Trevor's been writing about trans extremism and its threat to women and democracy for some years now. Share token for a Times article from him back in 2018:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0fe1693a-d56f-11e8-926d-96790161a92a?shareToken=14d04c18d2269fdc4fbb9a75c3338475

Rainbowshit · 23/10/2022 10:22

Good

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 23/10/2022 10:20

(Two other people, not three as I said in the OP.)

Predictably there's already someone doing a sadface about it on Twitter, but several others who seem pleased.

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 23/10/2022 10:18

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/10/2022 10:03

Who were the other people?

Sarah Sands and Kate Ferguson. They both sounded uncomfortable but good on them for not fumbling it. Sarah Sands said she had to take the same position as Trevor as they both belong to Index on Censorship (trustees? directors?).

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001dd7q Starts just after 52 minutes.

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GlassDeli · 23/10/2022 10:16

Well done Trevor and guests. Surely the tide must turn soon.

sashagabadon · 23/10/2022 10:11

I am a massive Trevor Philips fan. Shame he is not on things like question time more often to balance the panels out. He always has interesting takes

badbaduncle · 23/10/2022 10:09

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2358853b · 23/10/2022 10:05

They all sounded incredibly nervous and uncomfortable, which is revealing in itself. But yes, they essentially all agreed that there was a “clear difference” (as I think someone said) between Eddie Izzard and a biological female.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/10/2022 10:03

Who were the other people?

Clymene · 23/10/2022 10:01

I love Trevor Phillips. He's having none of this nonsense. I thought Paddy sounded a bit nervous

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 23/10/2022 09:59

Forgot to say what Trevor Phillips said! Doh. He said it was troubling that we had reached a position where people using ordinary English were finding themselves in trouble at work. I think that was the gist.

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