Joules flying the trans flag

That is put so much better than the question I wanted to ask. I await the response…

From what I have read it was deliberately placed by someone on the route/to co-incide with FiLiA2022

So by your reckoning if done by an individual it would be ok to :
Place a swastika on a route to a synagogue?
Wave a golly toy at a BLM protest?

It is an act of hate- surely? It is not supporting trans or LGBTQ rights it is trying to incite hatred against another group with different views.

I'm afraid the faux innocent 'it's just a flag/it's just a nice gesture of support' card has been overplayed.

There aren't many people left to be conned by it into not seeing the unholy mess underneath. A lot of questions to be asked though about those either too uninformed or willfully avoidant to be able to face the truth and deal with the conflicts and very serious issues involved.

Mermaids binfire being a prime example.

And as for ‘I support LGBT’ or ‘it’s a trans flag, what the problem’. Just think about why whose store and others were asked to display it. There is no LGBT event going on in the town. They were asked to put it up purely because there was a feminism conference in the town. It is just to provoke a reaction and nothing else.

I think it’s a huge misstep by any store staff or social media team to personally take it upon themselves to display something like this without the ok of HQ.
An individual can support what they like but they shouldn’t presume include the company they work for in their beliefs.

Are Joules going to verify you? @andpeggy1

That’s exactly what I thought. It is much more likely to be a member of staff than Joules as a company.

@andpeggy1 lgb and tplus are opposite to each other. You cannot support both at the same time as one is sex based tand the other erases sex. Please tell me how you can support both?

Enjoy your job while the shop is still around.

I won't be the only customer who will never buy from Joules again.

No woman (that would be the biological females who are Joules main target market) needs Joules, but the company need customers if they are going to keep employing TRAs.

Shame you don't support womens or LGB rights.

TRAs are helping to put the final nail in the coffin of the High Street.

This thread has gone to Joules head office.

If it was a Nazi flag would that wake you up

They put a trans-pride flag at their window, yes.

Is this all this is about?

@andpeggy1 very good to hear this is not a central thing. Gender ideology (the T) is destroying womens safe spaces and our sports. It is mutilating kids and telling them they are in the wrong body.

It has nothing to do with LGB. They have cleverly tacked the T on the end to confuse you.

It's very possible that the staff member felt scared of the ramifications of not doing this. I can just see some horrible TRA going on a Twitter rant, with pictures and videos, naming and shaming the shop and the assistant. Remember, these people are prepared to ruin anyone for their righteous cause.

Jumped up, snotty upstarts with a bit of sinister power, going into shops and demanding that they fly particular flags is reminiscent of every totalitarian regime going. Transactivists might as well end every sentence they utter with the words, 'Or else!'

Hear, hear Nils. It is more a support for the dismantling of rights; especially pertaining to women and children. Back to Victorian times and beyond.

Nothing wrong with supporting trans or lgbtq rights!

How do you feel about anti-women politics, the exclusion of females from female spaces and the destruction of child safeguarding? Support those too?

I'm lesbian. Ffs don't do that shit in my name please, I want no part of it.

Yeah it's nice stuff

I mean the vast majority of our Western consumer goods are made in China and I think we all have to take responsibility for our complacency and the fact that almost all of us contribute to funding the Chinese government by buying endless things we don't need or which could be bought from more ethical sources. But I do see your point.

I agree, I do my utmost to NOT purchase goods made in China, however, they have pretty much a monopoly on goods produced for the consumerist West - that should NEVER have been allowed to happen.

Think youbmay well have put the final nail in your rapidly collapsing coffin. Bye bye Joules

I'm part of joules VM team and I can promise you, this is not part of our display plans. This was a member of the stores decision entirely!

Though I'm sorry to disappoint you all, Im totally all for it! Nothing wrong with supporting trans or lgbtq rights!

I hope they had a wee word with the member of staff who did this and their manager. It’s outrageous that shops just plant this stuff -not to ‘show support’ to anyone but to put one finger up to women.

Outside Joules now. They’ve listened to women & taken the flag down.

That's great, Empress.

I mean the vast majority of our Western consumer goods are made in China and I think we all have to take responsibility for our complacency and the fact that almost all of us contribute to funding the Chinese government by buying endless things we don't need or which could be bought from more ethical sources. But I do see your point.