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Joules flying the trans flag

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ofwarren · 22/10/2022 11:41

I've just seen this on twitter.

Seeing as though mumsnet are their target market, this is very foolish of them.

twitter.com/E8Emma/status/1583750937512144896?t=_ON-ZaQFS-TvpGxayfF2Xw&s=19

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Lockheart · 14/11/2022 10:05

ArabellaScott · 14/11/2022 09:40

Well, that was one of the quickest 'go woke, go broke' effects in action I've ever seen ...

Come on now, the reason they've gone into administration has bugger all to do with this. Let's not be daft.

pattihews · 14/11/2022 09:43

Oh no, now ToGanymedeandTitan will have to go back to John Lewis and M&S.

ArabellaScott · 14/11/2022 09:41

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-63620832

'UK clothing and homeware group Joules has said it plans to appoint administrators in a move that could put about 1,600 jobs at risk.'

ArabellaScott · 14/11/2022 09:40

Well, that was one of the quickest 'go woke, go broke' effects in action I've ever seen ...

nilsmousehammer · 31/10/2022 10:48

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 30/10/2022 19:16

Ooh! Touched a nerve?
No, not at all, why would it? Just saying it doesn't speak for everyone, it was a big generalisation.

Male supremacism is certainly a point of view. Yes.

DdraigGoch · 30/10/2022 20:46

TrainedByCats · 30/10/2022 10:30

I’ve lost track did Joules double down on displaying a flag likely to be viewed as intimidating to attendees to a feminist conference after removing it? I like a printed wellie Blush and need a new pair so wondering whether its back to Joules or do I have to find somewhere else Sad

They swept the matter under the carpet.

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 30/10/2022 19:16

Ooh! Touched a nerve?
No, not at all, why would it? Just saying it doesn't speak for everyone, it was a big generalisation.

Needmoresleep · 30/10/2022 18:48

I had never heard of Jules till wandering around their Edinburgh store. Almost bought something and made a mental note to look out for them in future.

Sorry no. FatFace please don't let me down. I have already given up on M&S and John Lewis. I need somewhere where I can buy clothes without feeling I am funding misogynists.

Onthecuspofabreakthrough · 30/10/2022 18:44

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 30/10/2022 17:21

Agree that Joules is now firmly aimed at the 45+/50+ demographic. Saw their stuff recently on a surprisingly downmarket shopping channel, aimed at the pensioner market, so times must be hard atm, and alienating your core shopper — 50+ women who REALLY aren’t into gender ideology —
Again with people on here thinking they speak for all women and trying to make it come across as so.
45-50 year old women aren't all "gender critical".
Many will be, many won't be.
You certainly don't speak for me.

I would put a good bit of money on more of them being gender critical than being TRAs, though.

postcardpuffin · 30/10/2022 18:41

*rather

postcardpuffin · 30/10/2022 18:40

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 30/10/2022 17:21

Agree that Joules is now firmly aimed at the 45+/50+ demographic. Saw their stuff recently on a surprisingly downmarket shopping channel, aimed at the pensioner market, so times must be hard atm, and alienating your core shopper — 50+ women who REALLY aren’t into gender ideology —
Again with people on here thinking they speak for all women and trying to make it come across as so.
45-50 year old women aren't all "gender critical".
Many will be, many won't be.
You certainly don't speak for me.

Ooh! Touched a nerve? I mean, I don’t buy Joules, but my mum (70) does. She had a lot of friends, all between approx. 60-80. And I haven’t as yet heard a single one of them being for gender ideology; eager the reverse. But yay for the fashionable ladies who are, like you! 👍

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 30/10/2022 17:21

Agree that Joules is now firmly aimed at the 45+/50+ demographic. Saw their stuff recently on a surprisingly downmarket shopping channel, aimed at the pensioner market, so times must be hard atm, and alienating your core shopper — 50+ women who REALLY aren’t into gender ideology —
Again with people on here thinking they speak for all women and trying to make it come across as so.
45-50 year old women aren't all "gender critical".
Many will be, many won't be.
You certainly don't speak for me.

TrainedByCats · 30/10/2022 10:30

I’ve lost track did Joules double down on displaying a flag likely to be viewed as intimidating to attendees to a feminist conference after removing it? I like a printed wellie Blush and need a new pair so wondering whether its back to Joules or do I have to find somewhere else Sad

postcardpuffin · 29/10/2022 23:43

Agree that Joules is now firmly aimed at the 45+/50+ demographic. Saw their stuff recently on a surprisingly downmarket shopping channel, aimed at the pensioner market, so times must be hard atm, and alienating your core shopper — 50+ women who REALLY aren’t into gender ideology — seems pretty dumb.

I used to buy their children’s clothes for DD when they were still really nice quality and worth the prices. Not so much any more — the quality and design has slipped and they no longer seem up there with the Boden classes (except for those stores in posh summer holiday locations like Southwold). Mind you, your genuine poshos aren’t much into gender ideology either; so there’s another set of customers you don’t really want to piss off.

WinterTrees · 29/10/2022 21:21

SamTamit · 29/10/2022 19:42

Thanks for sharing. So wonderful to see Joules making a stand for compassion. I’ll definitely be shopping there more from now on.

Will you really though? Joules is a pretty distinctive look. If you're into gilets and printed wellies you probably shop there already, and there's only so many striped bretons and cheerful floral prints a person needs in their wardrobe.

I'd say their inadvertent 'stand for compassion' is hardly going to lead in an uptick in sales from existing customers, and it's definitely not going to draw the oh-so-edgy Black Pampers crowd, who so despise us middle aged mummies and our tragic style. And since there's any number of retailers all vying for our money, those who see 'misplaced virtue signalling' and 'pissing off core customers instead of 'stand for compassion' can easily go elsewhere. (Including eBay and Vinted, where Joules stuff is ten a penny.)

My guess is their 'stand for compassion' could be another nail in the coffin of an already struggling business. I doubt the warm glow of benevolence will be of much comfort to their shareholders.

KittenKong · 29/10/2022 21:01

It would say to me that the ladies changing room is open to anyone who says the want to use it. No questions asked.

Onthecuspofabreakthrough · 29/10/2022 19:46

SamTamit · 29/10/2022 19:42

Thanks for sharing. So wonderful to see Joules making a stand for compassion. I’ll definitely be shopping there more from now on.

Compassion for people with dicks only, though.

SamTamit · 29/10/2022 19:42

Thanks for sharing. So wonderful to see Joules making a stand for compassion. I’ll definitely be shopping there more from now on.

nilsmousehammer · 27/10/2022 11:43

Well there isn't is there?

Say anything at all remotely sensible and the TQ+ lobby will scream and go berserk

Stroke the TQ+ lobby on command and look complete tits while losing custom.

Note the common factor to both problems.

RhymesWithOrange · 27/10/2022 09:47

NRN means no reply necessary. Basically, Joules is saying there's no way to make this better so they're staying quiet until it all goes away.

ofwarren · 27/10/2022 09:25

Reading it again, it looks like they might possibly know the woman who is posting defending them.
Awkward

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ofwarren · 27/10/2022 09:22

Looks like Joules might have commented on the posts about it by accident Confused

I can only imagine that post was meant to be kept internal.
Shows they are reading it all though.

Joules flying the trans flag
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Asdavaluesausage · 25/10/2022 21:52

@nilsmousehammer I also salute you

ArabellaScott · 25/10/2022 20:54

Grin All rise for a standing ovation!

NOT LIKE THAT JORDAN

PonyPatter44 · 25/10/2022 19:27

nilsmousehammer · 25/10/2022 17:57

I don't know, but I don't think you ever see the piano being played with it.

Utterly, utterly brilliant. I salute you, @nilsmousehammer .

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