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Mail: Parents of three-year-olds 'took their children to NHS Tavistock clinic claiming they were trans when they just wanted a child of a different sex', psychiatrist says

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ResisterRex · 22/10/2022 07:41

Article in the Mail on views and experiences of GIDS from a former psychiatrist who worked there until 2012. Referrals only increased after that time, as is documented.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11342541/Dr-Az-Hakeem-says-parents-claimed-kids-trans-NHS-Tavistock-transing-factory-clinic.html

"Parents of children as young as three were fabricating stories that their toddlers were transgender, a former psychiatrist at the Tavistock child gender clinic claims.

Dr Az Hakeem worked at the controversial NHS clinic for 12 years until 2012 and said he expressed concerns the procedures followed by staff 'were mad', describing Tavistock as a 'transing factory'."

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Datun · 22/10/2022 10:00

I hope Cass is investigating fully where this all starts. With trans lobby groups 'training' teachers and pupils, the NHS, the police, all government departments, etc.

And I hope the influence of mermaids on Gids is specifically acknowledged.

colouringindoors · 22/10/2022 09:36

Sadly I'm not at all surprised. Powerful article with a good summary of the Tavistock timeline.

VestofAbsurdity · 22/10/2022 09:29

Hoardasurass · 22/10/2022 08:40

I can't say most of what I'd like to without getting deleted so I will stick with this:-
Any parents who are trying to or are transing a pre school child should immediately have their children removed by social services.
Anyy charities who are referring pre school children and/or supporting the parents to transition a child whether socially or medically should be shut down immediately and investigated for child abuse and promoting child abuse

Agree wholeheartedly. I would add that homophobic parents who want to trans their child because the child plays with the 'wrong' toys or their personality doesn't adhere to regressive sex stereotypes should also have their children removed from them and any Charity or online 'community' that supports such parents in this should be shut down and face criminal charges.

It is child abuse pure and simple, it is enforcing the ideas, wants and needs of adults on children and the children are paying a devastating price.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 22/10/2022 09:12

I like this man, he doesn’t pull his punches.

Hoardasurass · 22/10/2022 08:40

I can't say most of what I'd like to without getting deleted so I will stick with this:-
Any parents who are trying to or are transing a pre school child should immediately have their children removed by social services.
Anyy charities who are referring pre school children and/or supporting the parents to transition a child whether socially or medically should be shut down immediately and investigated for child abuse and promoting child abuse

Whatwouldscullydo · 22/10/2022 08:25

We knew this. Despite it being 2022 and ot perfectly normal for kids to mimic their parents by pretending to look after a baby using dolls or copying things like cooking and ironing, still its seen as odd if a boy does it.

I've also seen alot on social media where parents have 2 boys and their third/4th and final child is a girl and that girl has so much stuff and so many plans for her befire she's even born. I often wonder wwhat they'd do if the girl decided she wanted her brothers toys/clothes etc My dd was a dog for years. Playing is how kids learn. It's not a statement about their identity. And there's fuck all wrong with a boy who wants to sing and dance. They should ve able to do so without being thought of as gay at 3 or trans.

cant we leave kids alone. Are adults not already validated enough yet. Our kids arent your support humans.

Iliveonahill · 22/10/2022 08:06

We knew this. How many posts on MN are there that express disappointment at having a boy.

Rightsraptor · 22/10/2022 08:05

I hadn't read before that parents who had previously lost a child were over represented in this transing group of parents. Seems obvious now I've read it, but wouldn't have occurred to me before. Not only the kids needing psychological therapies then, but the parents also.

SudocremOnEverything · 22/10/2022 07:54

when this stuff is translated into tabloid speak, you do get some stand out phrases. Transhausen by proxy being a corker.

Who is referring these preschool children - who’ve fairly recently discovered that they’re separate people from their mothers and are still grappling with theory of mind - to a gender identity clinic? There’s no possibility of them having an identity that is some essential part of them (rather than imposed from outside).

KittenKong · 22/10/2022 07:48

Well there’s a shocker! Some people aren’t fit to have a pot plant let alone a child. I hope any doctor seeing this is reporting the parents to social services (do they care these days?).

The emotional abuse being heaped on that child - a million times worse than women I know who joke about their dads wanting a son and taking them to football matches and fishing.