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Mum takes 14 yr old to Poland for top surgery

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Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 22/10/2022 07:06

It seems as though a market has developed for 'gender affirming' surgeries in Poland being offered at very low prices.
To make such life chaging decisions about your child's healthy body, paying for and enabling it I can't understand.

Mum takes 14 yr old to Poland for top surgery
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OldGardinia · 23/10/2022 11:45

CountZacular · 22/10/2022 10:17

I was really surprised that this would be legal in Poland. I just had a look at the thread and apparently they just need a formal diagnosis which, by the sounds of it wasn’t all that forth coming on the NHS.

I was interested in this particular post - what exactly are all these tests looking for?

"Brain scan". Complete quackery. The idea of a "female brain in a male body" justification for trans has been exploded as a concept for years. And a DOCTOR is basing a medical decision on it?

LaughingPriest · 22/10/2022 22:29

A teen girl has drastic cosmetic surgery because their breasts are the wrong level of "feminine" for their liking.

Apart from involving far more risks, I don't see how cosmetic mastectomy and breast augmentation aren't two sides of the same coin?

Can society not just... stop placing so much value on women's breast size? <hollow laugh>

ByTheGrace · 22/10/2022 20:57

This is so upsetting. My DD has been talking about wanting a tattoo and despite loving tattoos and having them myself, the thought of her adulterating her perfect skin makes me feel ill. I can't even imagine celebrating her wanting to cut off her healthy breasts, it's beyond comprehension.

StapFooterin · 22/10/2022 20:44

Fruitbatt · 22/10/2022 20:40

Appalling, the Mother and the Drs should be arrested.

And the father too I should think ...

Fruitbatt · 22/10/2022 20:40

Appalling, the Mother and the Drs should be arrested.

BrokenFridgeDrawer · 22/10/2022 20:39

Language is Power.

By using the language of the agressor or the oppressor, you aid them.

I don't think using terms such as Top and Bottom surgery is helpful or accurate.

It would be better to call it what it is

Cosmetic Mastectomy ?
Cosmetic Hysterectomy ?

and the much rarer
Cosmetic Castration ?
Cosmetic Orchiectomy ?

Anyone have any more accurate terms ?

canyouextrapol · 22/10/2022 20:28

Haudyourwheesht · 22/10/2022 08:19

The school I work in would probably do a flag waving school trip to one of the Polish clinics.

And mine :(

ToadSmall · 22/10/2022 17:44

I've been in two OFSTED's in the last two years and in both of them we were grilled about FGM.

Had we done Prevent training, what should we be looking for, which countries should we be listening out for when children are talking about their holidays?

In one of the schools I'd be surprised if any of the children had a passport.

KittenKong · 22/10/2022 17:38

WarriorN · 22/10/2022 12:33

I don't think there's actually a law about it yet?

There is about FMG. If you work with kids you are obliged to report if a girl is suspected at risk of being whisked abroad to be married off or having genital mutilation/breast ironing. How is this different?.’

jay55 · 22/10/2022 15:32

I had huge boobs at 11 and was frequently assaulted because of them. I'd totally have taken myself off to get them removed if I could have at 14.

WarriorN · 22/10/2022 12:33

I don't think there's actually a law about it yet?

Sunflower987 · 22/10/2022 12:24

Is it even legal to do that?

StapFooterin · 22/10/2022 12:21

FOURTEEN?? Butchering a girl's developing body at 14? Honestly, I have no words left.

nursingchair · 22/10/2022 12:16

This may be fake, we won't know.

But I do know of a mother who has been planning this for her 15 yr old. Also Scotland. We don't know what's happened yet.

This scenario needs safeguarding guidance to be in place before it happens.

That's the point of safeguarding.

PurplRainDancer · 22/10/2022 12:14

Child abuse, she should go to prison.

WarriorN · 22/10/2022 12:13

So this was a half term trip.

We are advised to be on the look out for fgm linked to foreign holidays, girls not returning after the hols etc.

WarriorN · 22/10/2022 12:09

purgatory, I'm not surprised it could be higher as your muscles are still building

RudsyFarmer · 22/10/2022 11:30

FrancescaContini · 22/10/2022 08:17

Agree that it’s the “new” FGM, albeit taking place in plain sight via SM with smiley faces, rainbows and balloons - which makes it all the more grotesque. Presumably these double mastectomies take place in operating theatres using sterile equipment etc, but otherwise: yes, it’s akin to FGM and schools and SS should be all over it.

I hadn’t even thought of its equivalence to FGN. You’re not wrong are you?!!

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 22/10/2022 11:29

Women having mastectomies for cancer have a 20-30% chance of long-term Post-Mastectomy Pain Syndrome. I learnt this from a detransitioner, who guess what, suffers from Post-Mastectomy Pain Syndrome. In her experience, she thinks that the figures are higher amongst female people who have/had mastectomies as part of surgical treatment of gender dysphoria.

twitter.com/SourPatches2077/status/1417158167335620609?t=SvHCvSYghZKAkrfdINYZZQ&s=19

Haudyourwheesht · 22/10/2022 11:28

They say they're in Scotland and on the GIDS waiting list in Glasgow

Ah, Glasgow. Shocker.

MountainWitch · 22/10/2022 11:22

nursingchair · 22/10/2022 09:02

(NC) I was recently made aware of a child who's mother was planning to take her abroad for a mastectomy. I believe ss were alerted. Don't know what happened thereafter. However they were 15, Scotland. Scotland has had school half terms in the last couple of weeks.

This is so chilling, and feels rather too close to home (I work in a school, full gender shite compliant)
Terrifying.

orangeisthenewpuce · 22/10/2022 11:05

'I'm happy to say I have been instrumental in allowing my young daughter to have a double mastectomy so I can brag about it on social media. I truly am a shit parent' is what that should say

Abhannmor · 22/10/2022 10:57

OldCrone · 22/10/2022 08:37

I'm no longer surprised about stories like this having read about Sidhbh Gallagher in the US. She has operated on 13 and 14 year old girls.

4w.pub/tiktok-gender-doctor-per-breast-removal-on-13-year-old-girl/

lilymaynard.com/wielding-the-sidhbh-gallagher/

Ugh that awful ghoul with the manic eyes and the stick on smile .

Someone called her Scythe Gallagher on craicnet I think. Bring on the lawsuits.

Alcemeg · 22/10/2022 10:50

This Polish clinic offers sex reassignment surgery with the slogan "We help bring out the beauty in you"

sexreassignmentsurgery.eu/

Smilelesstalkmore · 22/10/2022 10:49

Is this going to be like the new Turkey Teeth, except is 14 year old girls having double mastectomies?

I agree that this needs to be treated in the same way as FGM.