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Please update your email signature to include your pronouns

194 replies

Rosecottage888 · 22/10/2022 00:34

The email states (at the bottom) that this is optional.

I knew it was coming, saw other threads from people who's organisations asked the same. I won't do it, just wanted a moan here.

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TitsInAbsentia · 22/10/2022 02:04

Needless, virtue signalling bullcrap. It's everywhere. For example today I completed a Transport for London consultation on local cycle lanes. It needed me to register and within that:

"We would like to ask you eight optional questions. We ask these questions to help us assess whether:
• our Have your say activity reaches all sections of the community
• to understand possible differences in views between sections of the community (for example to consider if the level of support for a scheme varies between age groups) and
• to improve the effectiveness of the way we communicate with all our customers"

It asked for gender, ethnic group, religious beliefs and sexual orientation. I don't see how knowing if I'm a Bhuddist or a Martha wanting to be Arthur would be useful alongside whether or not I'm happy with the traffic a cycle lane causes or improve the effectiveness of how it communicates with me.

SimpleName83 · 22/10/2022 02:03

So, looks like, these days, women means men too?

PeloFondo · 22/10/2022 01:57

@SeemsABitHarsh I have to ask this at work, so I ask for title rather than miss/Mrs etc
You can pick what you want from Dr to Lady to Princess but it won't let me process any further without a title annoyingly! But if it's in the list of titles we have, you can pick whatever you want

SimpleName83 · 22/10/2022 01:57

I do judge the [female person]

"female name,
she/her".

She is currently a handmaiden, playing by men's rules.

The men who do

"male name,
he/him"
He's just emphasising his maleness.

SeemsABitHarsh · 22/10/2022 01:49

HopRockers · 22/10/2022 00:52

It's a test to see who actually reads the emails/who is brainless The email states (at the bottom) that this is optional.

It's going to be very revealing!

How does one fail the test?

SeemsABitHarsh · 22/10/2022 01:46

Rosecottage888 · 22/10/2022 01:27

@SeemsABitHarsh a little yes, and I hope you're right. I also don't want to see a flurry of new emails stating their pronouns when they don't need to, just to keep up with the trend.

I don't think it really matters if your colleagues do or don't, like you say it's a trend and trends come and go. I don't judge anyone that has one for their own reasons, and I wouldn't expect anyone to judge me

SeemsABitHarsh · 22/10/2022 01:44

TerfranosaurusVagina · 22/10/2022 01:31

Wan/Kers?

Do it!

SeemsABitHarsh · 22/10/2022 01:43

SimpleName83 · 22/10/2022 01:29

I always thought it was good that my work colleagues from across the world were given my neutral name, no more detail, and were therefore unable to discriminate against me as a woman on my name.

If they would now force me to put it into email sig, that I'm a woman (but non-penis woman, type!!), "she/her" - ??!!!

What, then?!

Interesting, I feel similar on marital status - when some random asks for my title and they invariably say 'are you Mrs or Miss?'. Really, what business is it if theirs if I'm married or not, and why are they assuming I'm not Dr, Prof, or even just Ms. it's just annoying

SimpleName83 · 22/10/2022 01:43

It is sad, yes. But that is what women have to put up with. And what we try to fight against. And part of safeguarding children too. Because if we can't safeguard women, then our children are in grave danger,

Rosecottage888 · 22/10/2022 01:37

Pixiedust1234 · 22/10/2022 01:29

If people did start doing it, it would be very interesting to see how many manly males at the very top add them (I'm discounting heads of diversity and hr ). I bet most dont.

I'll be watching out for this for sure.

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Rosecottage888 · 22/10/2022 01:36

SimpleName83 · 22/10/2022 01:29

I always thought it was good that my work colleagues from across the world were given my neutral name, no more detail, and were therefore unable to discriminate against me as a woman on my name.

If they would now force me to put it into email sig, that I'm a woman (but non-penis woman, type!!), "she/her" - ??!!!

What, then?!

It's so sad that you even need to think like this!

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TerfranosaurusVagina · 22/10/2022 01:31

Wan/Kers?

SimpleName83 · 22/10/2022 01:29

I always thought it was good that my work colleagues from across the world were given my neutral name, no more detail, and were therefore unable to discriminate against me as a woman on my name.

If they would now force me to put it into email sig, that I'm a woman (but non-penis woman, type!!), "she/her" - ??!!!

What, then?!

Pixiedust1234 · 22/10/2022 01:29

If people did start doing it, it would be very interesting to see how many manly males at the very top add them (I'm discounting heads of diversity and hr ). I bet most dont.

Rosecottage888 · 22/10/2022 01:27

@SeemsABitHarsh a little yes, and I hope you're right. I also don't want to see a flurry of new emails stating their pronouns when they don't need to, just to keep up with the trend.

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SeemsABitHarsh · 22/10/2022 01:23

Rosecottage888 · 22/10/2022 01:18

@SeemsABitHarsh like I said, optional now but for how long

Do you feel worried that you'll be singled out if you don't? My experience is some people do, some people don't, and it doesn't really bother anyone either way

SimpleName83 · 22/10/2022 01:20

Damn, wrong thread!

Still, men can never be women; men can never be women; women and children still need safeguarding from men, no matter how men may "identify".

SeemsABitHarsh · 22/10/2022 01:19

redglobox · 22/10/2022 01:02

Optional where I work, made available fairly recently. Such a disappointment every time I see a colleague I previously respected add pronouns! It's such a bad move for the company to bring politics / ideologies into the workplace in this way. Those who have added them are still very much in the minority. Interestingly they are almost all women with a handful of gay blokes. Not yet seen a single pronoun that doesn't match the individual's sex.

How would you tell their pronoun. complies with their sex just from their email address or first name? My name can be used by either sex. How can you tell?

feliciabirthgiver · 22/10/2022 01:18

@FlirtsWithRhinos 😂

Rosecottage888 · 22/10/2022 01:18

@SeemsABitHarsh like I said, optional now but for how long

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SkiingIsHeaven · 22/10/2022 01:18

She/we. It literally takes the piss.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 22/10/2022 01:17

I'm leaning towards OD/FOD

GrumpyPanda · 22/10/2022 01:16

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Wrong pronoun thread!

SeemsABitHarsh · 22/10/2022 01:16

Rosecottage888 · 22/10/2022 00:45

How long is it optional for though before they single out those who don't have pronouns on their signature? This worries me.

Why would they do that if it's optional?

Rosecottage888 · 22/10/2022 01:15

@SeemsABitHarsh thank you!

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