Please update your email signature to include your pronouns

@Oblahdeeoblahdoe I'm so glad it's not just me

Yes, lucky me!

If forced I think I will put he/him even though I am female and a woman. I work in a very male dominated field and am the only woman for miles. I don't think they'd have the balls to say anything.

Seems your company seems D&I very seriously, I presume they champion other minorities the same way? Or perhaps you see that as a waste of time too?

Yes, I do actually. People can put whatever they want on their email in the same way I can think whatever I like about them.

See pronoun on email signature and make judgement = 2 seconds wasted

Companies championing pronouns, sending emails, updating blogs, intranet pages, websites, tweeting, updating their Instagram and Facebook pages and staff updating their email signatures and attending workshops to discuss it all = slightly more than 2 seconds wasted.

I know who needs to be concentrating on getting the job done and it's not me, funnily enough.

He said that in conversations with transgender staff, they said they did not want this type of accommodation.
I found this bit more interesting.

I love this too and lol every time!😂

You judge someone based on an automated sig block? Maybe focus more on getting the job done and less on judging other people.

@OldCrone I don't. I was responding to someone who said that all the emails with pronouns she had seen, matched their sex. I asked how she knew. She said she worked with them all in person, or they had photos on their emails. I was simply replying she was lucky, I don't have that. Bit of topic.

Err no!

The workplace is hard enough to navigate these days without all that shit.

I die a little inside when I see it on someone's signature. I judge them for it. If we focused a bit more on getting the job done and less on all this 'bring yourself to work' stuff life would be a lot easier.

Yup, me too, I've worked with colleagues of many nationalities for decades, mostly via email. It's never been remotely a problem that I may not know their sex (or 'gender', come to that).

I have colleagues all round the world. They do not all have photos on their work profiles. I don't have sufficient knowledge of every language used by employees to have an idea of whether many names are typically male or female, and even in my first language (English), I don't know about Sam or Chris or other names that can be either. I don't actually care if the person I'm contacting in Singapore or Tokoyo or even London is male or female - I only really care that they identify as someone who can physically check the network cable and reseat it in the server that isn't responding on that interface (or whatever I happen to be contacting them about.)

English isn't the first language of many of my colleagues, though many of them are totally bilingual- but they're not all fluent, and I don't want to confuse them any more than English grammar already does. If stating pronouns actually gave people more understanding of how pronouns worked, I'd probably be more sympathetic, but they seem more likely to show up that the person stating them doesn't know so much about it, else they'd probably have I/me/my/mine/myself (those are literally my pronouns.) If someone else is speaking to me, they're most likely going to use you/you/your/yours/yourself. They're only going to use she/her/her/hers/herself when I'm not there, but in any person, there are more pronouns that subject/object I'm English, so if they going to state them, they should list the lot, not do half a job.

We have some people (in the US) who state she/her/ella. Why stop at Spanish? I'd be going for French, Latin, German, Dutch, Welsh, Italian, Greek, Russian... do Chinese languages or Japanese use pronouns? Might as well be fully inclusive of all the languages people could speak about me in the third person.

And also the thing about women being more discrimated against if you make it clear you're a woman. Most people I work with know I'm a woman. It can only work in my favour in the male-dominated workplace I'm in if they're assuming I'm just another bloke, for the ones who don't know.

Why do you need to know someone's sex to reply to a email from them?

wee/wee
me/wee
you/poo
me/poo
wee/poo
poo/you

Not everything is upfront and face value

Quite.

Thats the point. It is being forced. Underhand and silent, but not really optional. Try reading some old threads in this area as it will help you understand the undercurrents. Not everything is upfront and face value.

I'd reply "Yes" and leave it at that.

Well yes, that why I said if it's forced for you or anyone else

Never heard of cohersive control or peer pressure? Never heard of being bypassed for promotion because your "face doesn't fit"? Just because they say its optional or voluntary doesnt mean it actually is, and its very naive to think so.

Nope/nope/nope

I apologise.

I got the quote completly wrong.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...

But the point stands.

Beee Kind is being taken advantage of by the wolves in sheeps clothing of this ideology .... Billionaire AGPs seeking sympathy for trans feotuses

Aqqiesse to the pronouns now, share your toilet later

No, silence is what is getting us here.

People need to speak up and show other views and opinions.

Otherwise it will be acceptance by aqquiessence.

It needs to be confronted.

Becuase after the pronouns, what is next, the toilets, the gym showers ?

Its very much a a "First they came for the Jews " moment

te/rf

no, I wouldn't have the balls to do this in real life either!

@SeemsABitHarsh you can have that, it's in my annoying list!
I ask for title but some people don't hear/get it so I end up listing options "ms? Miss? Lady? Doctor? Princess?"

Indeed, if they're behaving in a certain negative way to get a reaction then yeah obviously. I don't think everything on your list falls into that category. The comment didn't mention anything like that it simply said being non-binary or cross-dressing.