Rosie Jones is no longer a lesbian

This Facebook comment gives me hope that people do get it.
I’ve blanked out the commentators name as he might not realise just how contentious what he’s saying might be seen to be. I’d hate to expose him to a pile on by highlighting his name on here.

Quite

Glinner has posted about the show now: grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/channel-4-you-cant-make-fun-of-women

Yes, a patron, alongside Tatchell.

Is Jordan something to do with Educate and Celebrate who work in schools?

Name calling is always out of order

I thought Jordan's thing was a parody

I thought that Jordan’s stuff is all about parody. That Jordan’s stuff in the past was about them being male and yes, parodying the narcissism.

It's a Tale of Two Cocks, innit? Jordan Gray was nominated for an Edinburgh Comedy award at the fringe (the old Perrier award); Jerry Sadowitz got cancelled...

I just watched the show, I think that it was a mixture of fun and cowardice.

I think Ben's close claiming to think comedy should be brave etc should have ended then with saying the thing they are all bending over backwards not to say.

That Jordan was a deranged man in woman face, a joke about keeping him out of the ladies loos to avoid him fucking his mum or something.

It's cowardice.

I thought Jordan's thing was a parody I'm better than you because I used to be a man etc. The poking fun of his narcissism. And I hope that his nudity will force people to understand that trans women are intact men, some of whom have stuck breasts on.

On mainstream tv it stimulates debate.

If someone wants to rape or sexually abuse me or anyone else, they will do it. A very tiny minority of men have claimed to be transwomen for nefarious purposes but the majority of transpeople just want to live peacefully within society.

Jesus wept, not this fucking argument again.
"Oh, if they want to do it they will anyway, so let's just make it as easy as possible."
Have you listened to yourself recently?

No idea who she is and I feel very fortunate.

So the notoriously controversial (ya know, so there's a pretty big chance that by attending his show you'll end up being offended) comedian, Jerry Sadowitz, shows his penis on stage at the Edinburgh fringe and gets cancelled. But the “stunning and brave” transwoman, Jordan Gray, goes full frontal and plays the keyboard with her penis on national television and it’s celebrated?

Friday Night Live should’ve stayed in the 80’s – you know, when it was funny and comedians (i.e. Rosie Jones) inserting the word “fucking” in between their first and surname for laughs wasn’t the pinnacle of their comedic talent.

This comedian has gone on to Twitter to claim that all Gammons (a racist term) are upset. Yet again all those in media and the Metropolitian elite have no idea over who is outraged over this.

Jordan did this same act at the Edinburgh Festival with the same finale, and won an award for it... one trick pony, can’t sing, can’t play the keyboard with, or with their dick, 15 mins of fame in a nutshell.

Why feelings and not logic?

I’ve just got better things to do on a Saturday than justify my own feelings to others.

I wish that line worked for females wanting things like accessible rape crisis help, or a crucial operation, or to be allowed to be homosexual.

I’ve just got better things to do on a Saturday than justify my own feelings to others.

@Randomcommentary you said "i don’t feel that women are being made subordinates or suppressed by transwomen. This happens with ‘cis’ men in my experience."

Jordan seemed quite keen to stress that they are better than women because their tits won't sag, and they always do anal. Why is that an acceptable "joke" from anyone who's male, regardless of how they present? Is misogyny funny in your opinion, and unrelated to the subordination and suppression of women?

Because to me it seemed to exactly tick those boxes. And that makes Jordan basically the same as any selection of rancid 70s male comedians, except Jordan claims to be a woman.

I don't really care about the cock stuff, seemed pretty on trend with the OTT narcissism, although willy waving is the very definition of a male behaviour, and it looked staged since the cameraperson managed a lovely closeup of the key wanging. eye bleach

It's a statement of boundaries.

So interesting that a female having boundaries is immediately perceived as an act of aggression and misbehaviour towards male people.

To avoid noticing that the aggression and misbehaviour was in the assault on their boundaries that necessitated the boundaries being restated.

Fantastically sex based double standards.

Any man, cis or trans (to use your terms) has access these days to women's single sex spaces. This is not an attack on trans people. It's a statement of boundaries.

So you will come on here, call people bigots with absolutely nothing to back it up, and then 'bow out' when challenged.

Got it.

I’ll bow out now because we will never convince each other to change our views.

I'm more than willing to be convinced, bring on your evidence please! I would dearly love to be able to believe that women's rights and equalities are being destroyed by male people who are not able to value or consider female needs and have the power to commandeer them.

Unfortunately at the moment I am neck deep in evidence of rape threats, death threats, females with access needs excluded from health care, rape crisis services, refuges so that male access needs can be met, females who are homosexual are being hounded out of Pride and harassed to 'learn to cope' with hetero sex, females are being hounded by police for stating reality, required to lie in court, losing their jobs - it's fantastically depressing. If you can provide evidence that this is all some horrible mistake and TW and TQ+ politics are rushing to rescue and help these females and achieve their aims in ways that work for females too well please, please let me know.

But I suspect your 'we will never convince each other' is more that you are not able to face the reality and would prefer me to join you in not looking, and letting male people rock on. At the cost of females.

And male supremacism as a value system? YMMV, you do you, but no, I won't be switching to embrace that ever. I'm not raising little girls to be service animals.

i don’t feel that women are being made subordinates or suppressed by transwomen. This happens with ‘cis’ men in my experience.

But carry on with your battles and where you see the need to give your support, we all have our own subjective experiences which influences our opinions.

I’ll bow out now because we will never convince each other to change our views.