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Rosie Jones is no longer a lesbian

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RosalindsAFuckingNightmare · 21/10/2022 21:35

Anyone watching Friday Night Live? She’s just announced she is “gay”. Is this a deliberate move away from lesbians who are increasingly being targeted for being gc?

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nilsmousehammer · 24/10/2022 14:54

Rooted in an MRA belief of entitlement to prescribe and control what a female may or may not believe or how she may live.

But all of this enacted largely as a lot of distraction from the central point, which is preventing females legally having any ability to say no when a male wants access to their body.

So we have: You can't have that faith, it gets in the way of males doing what they want with/to you
You cant have that sexuality, it gets in the way of males doing what they want with/to you
You can't have that space
You can't have that group
You can't safeguard those children

There's one theme here. Just one. It's dressed up in an absolute snowstorm of hyperbole and word salad to try and make it sound in any way justifiable but there's the one single theme at the heart.

Helleofabore · 24/10/2022 14:24

nilsmousehammer · 24/10/2022 13:46

Was it on this thread the poster asked about activists rubbishing women's faith and culture to destroy their equality act protections against males using them however they wanted?

Do go and check out the 'Hospital refuses to operate after woman requests all-female care' thread, pages 25 onwards. There's an exceptionally ugly demonstration going on in real time.

Yes. It is a live demonstration.

Religions that say that woman should not be alone with males they have not given permission to or who should not allow them to touch her are not worthy of respect apparently.

"Looks like some posters have forgotten that religious beliefs shouldn’t be defended when they are used to cause harm to women and undermine their autonomy."

The point being that specifying that women should not be alone with male she does not give permission to or allowing that male to touch her is automatically one causing harm to women and undermining their autonomy?

Because why? Maybe because such posters declare that any woman should automatically wish to be left alone with any male and to allow any male to touch her? Sounds more like a MRA type argument to me than one about the realities of women who choose their religious beliefs or who have no option but to follow a belief due to their lack of other options.

nilsmousehammer · 24/10/2022 13:46

Was it on this thread the poster asked about activists rubbishing women's faith and culture to destroy their equality act protections against males using them however they wanted?

Do go and check out the 'Hospital refuses to operate after woman requests all-female care' thread, pages 25 onwards. There's an exceptionally ugly demonstration going on in real time.

sashh · 24/10/2022 10:31

Wotagain · 21/10/2022 21:44

I don’t much care how she labels herself, just so long as she doesn’t label herself as funny or entertaining.

I totally agree.

I know her disability makes her speech difficult but you are just waiting for her to say the most obvious thing, not remotely funny.

torquewench · 24/10/2022 10:27

The only bit I laughed at was Ade Edmondson: "Thatcher's dead!"

Livetoplay · 24/10/2022 10:25

Asking that ANYONE going into a school for a one off reason is impractical. But if you were regularly going into schools or worked for a company that went in it’s good practice to have one.
they aren’t a fail safe though. A clear DBS just means someone hasn’t been caught - look at all the teachers, police etc who’ve been convicted of crimes against children.
A DBS is only one layer of protection, and certainly a lot less important than others.

Livetoplay · 24/10/2022 10:21

Other performers.

Livetoplay · 24/10/2022 10:21

‘Was it on this thread that a PP pointed out that drag queens have asked NOT to have to provide a DBS check when working in schools etc?’

Visitors to school don’t need a DBS - that includes any kind of performer or workshop provider as they’re coming in on a one off basis.
I have volunteered in schools on a casual basis doing workshops without one. You wear a different coloured visitor badge/ lanyard and cannot move about the school without a teacher. But we come in, go to one room, set up, run the workshop with staff present regardless of DBS or not.
I now regularly volunteer with the same charity, going into schools. I have an enhanced DBS . Still supervised by school staff regardless.
so I can see why there would be an objection to demands for drag queens in particular to have DBS checks for one off workshops.
mother performers would not be expected to have one.

Livetoplay · 24/10/2022 10:10

Jesus fucking Christ! It’s hard enough being gay sometimes without other people piling on to critique what word we use to describe ourselves.
I’m a lesbian, I have mostly always use gay or gay woman to describe myself.
I sometimes say lesbian. I have very occasionally used queer. As far as I’m concerned they all accurately described my sexuality as a woman who’s only had relationships with women and is married to a woman.

Birdsweepsin · 24/10/2022 10:07

FrancescaContini · 24/10/2022 09:51

Was it on this thread that a PP pointed out that drag queens have asked NOT to have to provide a DBS check when working in schools etc?

Can anyone please provide any further information on this?

Who gets to ask to bypass basic safeguarding rules??

Green Party

twitter.com/natehiggins/status/1563827473707634689?s=20&t=xmAq_iMga2ByoZrPwdi3Hw

FrancescaContini · 24/10/2022 09:51

Was it on this thread that a PP pointed out that drag queens have asked NOT to have to provide a DBS check when working in schools etc?

Can anyone please provide any further information on this?

Who gets to ask to bypass basic safeguarding rules??

FemaleAndLearning · 24/10/2022 09:10

Zelensky is clearly not playing the piano with his dick. It is a set up, it is still cringe, but the comedy is very very different to Jordan.

Bestcatmum · 24/10/2022 08:59

Friday night live was a shitshow.
Rosie Jones is awful, like an out of control toddler showing off at a wedding.
Then loadsa money who wasn't funny in the 80's and is just an embarrassment now.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/10/2022 08:56

As pp said it was more of a "wipe".

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 23/10/2022 19:35

It was so unimpressive. The “talent”, I mean. 😁

If I heard about someone who could play the piano with his cock, I’d assume that no hands were involved. That would be legitimately kind of impressive, though probably not possible for a man on estrogen.

But what even was that? It was just an attention seeking man with nothing worth paying attention to.

omg… just saw that Zelensky apparently did it with no hands and he’s also a President. Is it really Zelensky? This is Russian propaganda but it doesn’t actually lower my opinion of him if it’s true.

I hope this Jordan weirdo feels appropriately inferior. (In the talent department! Unlike Jordan’s pathetic efforts, in which the weenie closeup was the only point, this video is non explicit.)

mobile.twitter.com/runews/status/1584066184550313984

(Yes, I do have standards for piano cock playing. I deplore the recent decline of standards in public life.)

Navigatingnewwaters · 23/10/2022 19:16

UnwieldyRhombus · 23/10/2022 14:49

Hello to everybody other than Jason Isaacs, I guess.

twitter.com/jasonsfolly/status/1583587983357116417

Is he saying this with his tongue firmly in cheek, or is he a bit of misogynist (and maybe a bit of a chaser)? 'Magnificent boobs and magnificent member'...what😕

Magnificent member my eye!

FemaleAndLearning · 23/10/2022 19:14

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/10/2022 13:27

What qualifications does this person have to advise children in schools?

I suspect his only qualification is being transgender where all rules have gone.

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 23/10/2022 18:58

Magnificent boobs and magnificent member'...what

I think he has to be taking the piss, as the comparison with the Government would suggest. I didn’t look closely, but “magnificent”? Sorry not sorry, “mediocre” would have been generous.

Sparklybutold · 23/10/2022 18:20

So I just watched it and fucking hell. What an egotistical misogynistic dickhead.

UnwieldyRhombus · 23/10/2022 14:49

Hello to everybody other than Jason Isaacs, I guess.

twitter.com/jasonsfolly/status/1583587983357116417

Is he saying this with his tongue firmly in cheek, or is he a bit of misogynist (and maybe a bit of a chaser)? 'Magnificent boobs and magnificent member'...what😕

ReunitedThorns · 23/10/2022 14:23

Birdsweepsin · 23/10/2022 13:49

Serious question - where would 'regularly plays the piano with his penis' be recorded on his DBS?

I hesitate to suggest it, but would this count as 'soft intelligence'?

The Green Party recently passed a motion stating that requiring drag queens to have DBS checks was bigoted and that they would support a law that removed them from having to have any DBS checks before they worked with children.

Yet again this will allow dodgy people to take advantage of it.

Essentially the Green Party passed a motion stating that paedophiles can work with children as long as they wear a wig and a dress.

ReunitedThorns · 23/10/2022 14:19

@SpidersAreShitheads Barrowman received a lot less criticism, and you had people like one of the Banjo brothers publicly support him through the "tough" time. The ironic thing is Noel Clarke who recreated the incident on stage with a microphone instead of his penis lost his career over it (I know there was other stuff too, but the video was used as the main evidence).

Barrowman should never be in work again, but he got away with his behaviour because of his sexuality.

Now when a trans individual does it, not only do they get away with it, but they are celebrated.

But I'm not going to rise to the bait and be outraged over this mediocre entertainer.

Birdsweepsin · 23/10/2022 13:49

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/10/2022 13:27

What qualifications does this person have to advise children in schools?

Serious question - where would 'regularly plays the piano with his penis' be recorded on his DBS?

I hesitate to suggest it, but would this count as 'soft intelligence'?

Rosie Jones is no longer a lesbian
terryleather · 23/10/2022 13:38

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/10/2022 13:27

What qualifications does this person have to advise children in schools?

But Eresh we all know the qualification is being part of the sacred caste who claim a gender identity. That as a result of that claim all safeguarding and sense appear to be thrown out the window seems to be neither here nor there.

What could possibly go wrong...?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 23/10/2022 13:27

What qualifications does this person have to advise children in schools?

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