Pronouns at nursery

They’re asking you to make a political statement re are you a ‘trans ally’ or evil gender critical feminist.

What you do with that is up to you. I’d probably be shopping for a less political nursery.

Yes, in her absence...

Yes so they'd be using 'she' as a pronoun.

Do you happen to have this quote or it's source? I do fear that working in education I might need to use it sooner rather than later.

I would be concerned about gender stereotyping there too, especially at such a formative age. If you don’t have a choice of nursery, just leave it blank and if they raise it again, ask them why they need it as it is a difficult question, I bet they won’t come back to it after that. But look for an alternative nursery, moving your child is much less stressful than having them grow up thinking there is only one way to be a boy or girl. There is no way to explain non-binary without using the idea of a binary based on stereotypes. I wouldn’t want such a constrained environment for my little ones.

@RRhubarbFairy that was what my DCs' nursery was like. Some changing areas with the door open, some less overlooked.

I am gender critical. I don't believe in pronouns. My rights are protected by law.

I don't want to start off on the wrong foot here but equally I don't really want to play along with the nonsense

Starting off on the wrong foot would be putting your you and your DC’s feet through that door.

I’d be quite concerned that they are all bonkers.

The best thing to do would be to collude with all the other parents to put together the most diverse and confusing list of pronouns. Then see if the nursery management can remember all the right pronouns for the right parents.

Queer theory in nurseries? Nonononono! What other boundaries do they want to queer?

What do you mean by 'unsupervised'. I've worked in several nurseries and currently work in an SEN school. Some nurseries had enclosed baby change areas where yes, I or any of my colleagues would sometimes be alone changing a child.

In the school I'm in now, some of the children require personal care. We don't normally go in pairs to do it unless it's required (eg using hoists). These cannot be in 'public' areas as the individual has a right to privacy whilst still having support.

In both settings I have had male and female colleagues. Do you suggest that we should only change those of the same sex to us?

We are all DBS checked (I know this isn't fallible). It's rather a stretch to declare that someone who identifies as NB is sexually abusing young girls and that the nursery is complicit in this.

Me too.

And I’d also be quite concerned about what sort of effect all this crap might have on very young children’s language development. They need to hear proper English grammar so they can learn it.

Fair enough if adults who have learned to speak English want to be all ridiculous or precious about ‘their pronouns’. But the actual developmental needs of the children in a nursery should be taking priority over any of that. It matters a great deal when you’re talking about small children who are just figuring out how language works. And anyone working in a nursery should understand this.

I agree with the PP who suggested putting “standard English grammar” and then keeping a watchful eye out for any “blue for boys, pink for girls” type nonsense and nipping it in the bud.

Oh right. Obviously not then - they could be shut down if that is their approach so I’d be amazed if it were. If there was a man changing kids of either sex unsupervised I’d report and change nurseries.

"Whatever makes you feel comfortable "

I would worry about the sex stereotypes that this nursery might be pushing on kids.

No, she's questioning whether they'd occupy an exalted position where normal rules don't apply. Don't imagine for a moment this doesn't happen.

Generally at my children's nursery everyone wiped within sight, not two in the tiny changing area though, but if you asked for a same sex carer they would try to accommodate.
I'm worried they would say "but they aren't male" if asked for a same sex carer for a girl.

Is your worry he’ll be treated the same as a woman? Women shouldn’t be wiping little girls’ genital unsupervised either, the rules are the same regardless.

Just put as our sexes or something like that. Whilst I find this pronoun issue tricky it can be useful when caregivers don't have a name you are familiar with eg with non British staff. I was saved at work by pronouns in an email footer when I didn't know if someone i was meeting was male or female and needed to write something gender specific

Mad innit?

Wonder how teachers cope?

Imagine pandering to some self obsessed arsehole by engaging in bizarre nonsense like this?!

neopronouns-list.tumblr.com/neopronouns-list

here’s just the ‘C’s

C
Ca/Cak/Cake/Cakes/Cakeself
Ca/Cana/Canal/Canals/Canalself
Ca/Cas/Can/Cans/Casself
Ca/Cat/Cats/Cats/Catself
Cae/Caer/Caers/Caers/Caerself
Ca/Care/Cares/Cares/Careself
Cake/Cake/Cakes/Cakeself
Canal/Canal/Canals/Canals/Canalself
Care/Care/Cares/Cares/Careself
Cat/Cat/Cats/Cats/Catself
Cel/Celest/Celestial/Celestials/Celestialself
Celestial/Celestial/Celestials/Celestials/Celestialself
Cele/Stial/Celestial/Celestials/Celestialself
Cer/Cerise/Cerise/Cerises/Ceriseself
Cha/Char/Charm/Charms/Charmself
Chao/Chao/Chaos/Chaos/Chaoself
Charm/Charm/Charms/Charms/Charmself
Chart/Reuse/Chartreuse/Chartreuses/Chartreuseself
Che/Cher/Cherry/Cherries/Cherryself
Che/Cher/Cherry/Cherrys/Cherryself
Chef/Chef/Chefs/Chefs/Chefself
Cherry/Blossom/Cherries/Blossoms/Blossomself
Cherry/Blossom/Cherrys/Blossoms/Blossomself
Cherry/Blossom/Cherries/Blossoms/Cherryblossomself
Cherry/Blossom/Cherrys/Blossoms/Cherryblossomself
Cherry/Blossom/Cherries/Blossoms/Cherryself
Cherry/Blossom/Cherrys/Blossoms/Cherryself
Cherry/Cherry/Cherries/Cherries/Cherryself
Cherry/Cherry/Cherrys/Cherrys/Cherryself
Che/Sher/Shers/Shers/Sherself
Chicken/Chicken/Chickens/Chickens/Chickenself
Chi/Cken/Chicken/Chickens/Chickenself
Cii/Ciir/Ciir/Ciirs/Ciirself
Cin/Cinna/Cinnas/Cinnas/Cinnaself
Cla/Claw/Claws/Claws/Clawself
Claw/Claw/Claws/Claws/Clawself
Clo/Clover/Clovers/Clovers/Cloverself
Cloud/Cloud/Clouds/Clouds/Cloudself
Co/Co/Cos/Cos/Coself
Co/Code/Codes/Codes/Codeself
Co/Com/Comet/Comets/Cometself
Co/Cow/Cows/Cows/Cowself
Code/Code/Codes/Codes/Codeself
Cola/Cola/Colas/Colas/Colaself
Cook/Cook/Cooks/Cooks/Cookself
Cow/Cow/Cows/Cows/Cowself
Co/Coy/Coys/Coys/Coyself
Cold/Cold/Colds/Colds/Coldself
Comet/Comet/Comets/Comets/Cometself
Cotton/Candy/Candies/Candies/Cottonself
Coy/Coy/Coys/Coys/Coyself
Cream/Soda/Creams/Sodas/Sodaself
Cre/Creek/Creeks/Creeks/Creekself
Creek/Creek/Creeks/Creeks/Creekself
Cry/Cryst/Crystal/Crystals/Crystalself
Cryp/Crypti/Cryptid/Cryptids/Cryptidself
Cryptid/Cryptid/Cryptids/Cryptids/Cryptidself
Crys/Crystal/Crystals/Crystals/Crystalself
Crystal/Crystal/Crystals/Crystals/Crystalself