Pronouns at nursery

Please don't give in to this utter crap and nonsense.

Bah, didnt realise it was a resurrected zombie thread 🙄

Um....you've used she in there 😂
So you do have pronouns then.😁
As for OP, just internally roll your eyes and leave it blank if you don't want to put anything.

Fuck/Off

Somebody REALLY likes insects.

@FannyCann sounds lovely. Playing and exploring is what young children should be doing.

Pronouns 😯

This is how DD2 spent her time at a lovely Montessori nursery.
Play and exploration, looking at nature, there were always stick insects, fish, rabbits to clean out, caterpillars to observe. Lots of craft, art, cooking.

There is no way anything related to gender or sex education should be introduced (outside of some of the nature related study).

Pronouns at a nursery would send me running for the hills.

And another answer I would want... do they accept that kids this age decide day by day that they are boys, girls, whatever? Are all the kids going to be forced to accept this change every time it happens and use the correct t Pronouns and punished if they don't?

Basically how much time energy and focus is going to go on policing and discussing this, or will it be like any other normal nursery, kids free to do and say what they want because they are growing and exploring? There are other things in life to learn about and this one shouldn't be taking up any time in the curriculum whatsoever. If the they person forces the nursery to change the approach I would be deeply unhappy.

If it is just a peripheral, families are all different, some have 2 mummies, 2 daddies, one mummy, some have a cat, some have just a nanny, some people are girls, boys and some choose to be neither, and the conversation ENDS THERE then that is fine.

You will need to talk to the nursery manager and be prepared for a difficult conversation if they are fully converted by the trans lobby. I would find it really difficult but this is about the wellbeing of my child. It's time to get over my dislike of confrontation, I'm their mum, I'm the one they rely on to protect them. So need to step up.

If you can't change setting or find a childminder, don't want to have a meeting, and don't want to rock the boat, then the best thing is to leave it blank and do nothing.

I say best... but personally I would be meeting with the nursery manager to have a serious discussion about how they manage gender identity in little children. Little kids misgender all the time. It's a development phase. How to they handle that? Is it punished or accepted that they will get the right words in the end? Is the they them person going to be making the children feel like they have done something wrong every time it happens? Is the they going to be lecturing children on the use of Pronouns?

I would be hyper aware of the children being taught that they can choose what sex they want ro be based on feelings because at this age they will constantly flip flop. My 3 year old the other day said, when I was a baby I was a boy but now I'm not. I'll be a boy when I'm a grown up. She's very advanced in her language development and she is just having fun exploring life and how everything works. She knows full well she is a girl. What would happen at the nursery when the kids say things like this? I would want to know, from the nursery manager, how they would handle such a discussion and identify how they protect kids freedom to explore and grow without being put in a boxed category at such a young age.

If they give me a satisfactory response showing they have clear policy that all staff understand and that kids aren't going to be led to choosing their Pronouns, or punished for using the wrong ones, and the they person is simply a part of life they are taught to respect and think no more of, then I might be ok with my kid going there, but will be watching like a hawk.

Otherwise... sorry but the risk these kids are all in is just to great for me. Regressive nonsense. I'd be trying to find some other solution for childcare. Good luck

I would not send my kids there😵If it winds you up now, there is going to be more of these instances in the future

Don’t send your child there and tell them why.

It is captured by gender ideology.

Just what I was thinking. What other trans ideology are they going to introduce your children to?

Yes for me this is saying that an ideology must be forced onto children at the nursery.

Which isn’t OK by me. I would chat with them about my concerns, and if the nursery seemed to get the safeguarding concerns for children (ie they are not to be told that people can ‘change sex’ and they are not to be taught gender ideology through having to be use pronouns dictated by an adult) - then I would tell them why and remove my child.

And I’ve also said that i have asked the nurseries I’ve taken my DC to, and it has been a few over the years as we changed flats, if they have any males working there. They all said no.

fact - every few years there are stories in the news of males at nurseries or as family/friends of child minders that abuse children. An unrelated fact, obviously, hope not triggering to anyone…

I’ve also said that I bet that the male who has they as pronouns is 1-2 years away from she pronouns… is something triggering there? Just my 2cents…

So I see my post was deleted, I don’t know what part was triggering.

I’ve basically said this is a red flag for things to come, like teaching children there might be something wrong with their body if they are gender nonconforming. I believe in body positivity and that boys and girls can like, do and express themselves as they wish and not be told they “must be” wrong to like those things / must be the opposite sex and embark on a journey to change their body to match the sexist stereotypes held by adults.

and you should think carefully if this is where you want your child to spend the next years unto 4 or almost 5.

I think that the poster who said that pronouns ‘are not benign’ got it spot on.

I used to think it was all just benign, harmless, and I chose to respect the whole pronoun ‘thing’.

NOW I have my eyes wide open. It might be something that I might tolerate on some level at work or with adults (at times) BUT I now will NOT tolerate any of this around kids. It is a safeguarding issue and emotional issue - I think it breaks down truths for kids that are quite important.

People like that would have transed my sister no question. She only wore ‘boys’ clothes (apart from school skirt which was non negotiable), had short hair, played with action men and mecanno, used a boys name when we played… of course my parents weren’t attention seeking idiots and just bought her the things she wanted without needing to tell everyone how special she was.

lord alone knows what this would have done to her mind and body.

I don’t know. What else would they be doing in the nursery? They are supposed to nurture and look after small children, bit teach them about gender nonsense. I’d worry if my son played with dollies they’d be spouting rot.

Leave it blank or say "standard"?

Yes write and tell them why - that is really going to make them think. A child = £££ and an empty space hits their pocket.

UWhatNow · Yesterday 23:57

^ladycarlotta · 21/10/2022 15:11
I'd appreciate that they are trying to use the right language for every child's family. 99% of the time the pronouns are going to match up with how someone looks but it's really nice they are trying to be inclusive. Just answer it in the spirit it's asked^

Oh please do a bit of reading… none of these ‘being inclusive’ gestures are benign or neutral or actually inclusive. It’s very damaging - mostly to minors, girls and women.

Sadly, these days, there are already very young children in nurseries who have had trans gender identities given to them.

Even if it comes from the parents, what this nursery is doing is a very bad sign. If I were the OP I would not send my child here and I’d tell them why.

Oh please do a bit of reading… none of these ‘being inclusive’ gestures are benign or neutral or actually inclusive. It’s very damaging - mostly to minors, girls and women.