Hospital refuses to operate after woman requests all-female care

Can I suggest you read the actual correspondence?

And also because you can't provide them with the private en suite icu room they're demanding because you physically don't have any? Ultimately this is a case of a customer demanding a service the hospital couldn't provide, and the hospital said "Sorry, we can't provide that". The rest is Daily Mail outrage fluffing combined with a patient who was clearly primed to be paranoid and see scary transgenders everywhere.

I really n't understand why this would seem to be such a bizarre request? I work in female only space providing personal care - we recruit females only. Why is it any different in this scenario? Especially considering her personal experience with sexual violence.

Well it wouldn't be surprising if they weren't familiar with the maya Forstater case.

I expect that is being swiftly rectified.

Firstly, an en suite room is not usually a feature of any ICU, as the patient is too vulnerable to be able to make use of a bathroom or a toilet.
When the patient is well enough to use a bathroom they will be transferred to step down care.
Staff and visitor toilets on an ICU are usually located well-way from the bedside, to minimise infections via cross contamination.

This could be tactfully explained, no?

Secondly, paranoia is a well-recognised feature of post traumatic psychological disorders, so being ‘paranoid’ (according to your opinion) does not mean she isn’t also genuinely traumatised, and may well indicate the opposite.

And thirdly, a paranoid woman has the same right to a same sex HCP for intimate care as a non-paranoid woman does.

Im not sure why four different people are on this thread pointing out it’s a private hospital, or what they think the relevance of that is, but at this point you can safely assume everyone reading the thread knows this information.

I'm a sexual assault survivor. That doesn't put someone above criticism. Or entitle them to have their every demand met even when it's logistically impossible to do so.

It's fine all you need to do is identify as trans....

If you actually read the exchange of letters, it puts the situation in a rather different light. The woman demanded something the hospital were simply not able to provide to her (a fully private with ensuite ICU bed, which the hospital simply doesn't have available). Her life was not at risk. She sounds paranoid, obsessed and insane.

She comes across as knowledgeable about her rights to me but then I believe women have a right to single sex spaces.

The hospital could have replied that they were unable to provide single sex ICU care but that she would only be in there for x hours and during that time would not be using the toilet and that they would ensure nursing staff were all women.

This is regularly provided to devout Islamic and Jewish women who I'd imagine make up a considerable percentage of PGH's patients, given the hospital's location.

The hospital cancelled her operation not because of her request for single sex care but because of why she asked for it.

A professional nurse (male, female or transgender) would respect the wishes of a patient about their care. The health trust should be protecting and emphasising the professionalism of their nursing staff and doing their best to accommodate a request for single sex care.

What a mess we are in.

I think it's important to remember this and that it is part of HCA Healthcare, a huge American company.

Indeed. And you can be sued for discrimination if you tell somebody, in writing, that you are cancelling their operation because you don't share their legally protected beliefs.

But you can cancel a procedure if you're unable to provide the service the patient demands.

We certainly know that the NHS will flat out lie about single sex wards -

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/03/17/hospital-told-police-patient-not-raped-alleged-attacker-transgender/

You still can't discriminate against women if you're a private hospital.

I didn't realise the hospital in question is private, not NHS

Twitter didn't write the letters.

And the woman (a rape survivor) who had her request for a female examiner for her breast exam passed around the Hospital Trust as an example of 'transphobia'?

The hospital had to publicly apologise for that one (as mealy mouthed as it was).

That one was in the Times and the Brighton and Hove Reporter. Not the Daily Mail.

It's the corespondence between the woman and the hospital, not just random Twitter comments.

as the woman admitted that in fact she'd been mistaken and the other woman wasn't trans at all?

She was told by the hospital this person was female. After she learned that hospitals have an actual policy of lying to and gaslighting patients about this, she reverted to believing the evidence of her own senses. She made the mistake of underestimating how evil this movement is, not a mistake in identifying a man’s sex.

I have to smile when you refer me from a crap rag like the Daily Fail to the cesspit that is Twitter. As if it's a better source of information. Thankfully I don't bother with either.

my post stands, there needs to be balance - the point is that the respect and treatment I received is the norm, the Daily Fail and Twitter will always want to maximise the headline for their own purposes - they couldn't give a flying 4X about women,

Do you remember the woman who kicked off on twitter not so long ago because she believed there was a trans woman on the female ward she was staying on? Huge outrage ensued which later had to backpedal as the woman admitted that in fact she'd been mistaken and the other woman wasn't trans at all?

She went back on that afterwards, she felt bullied by TRAs and gaslighted by the hospital. She maintains her original position now, so no.

Read the letters. They explain quite clearly that while they have ward rooms which are private with ensuite, they do not have icu rooms which are private and ensuite. They physically could not provide what this woman demanded.

Not sure why this is made as a point about the trans person

Because they walked in on her when she was having an intimate pre-op done.

I'm a sexual assault survivor. That doesn't put someone above criticism. Or entitle them to have their every demand met even when it's logistically impossible to do so.

Do you remember the woman who kicked off on twitter not so long ago because she believed there was a trans woman on the female ward she was staying on? Huge outrage ensued which later had to backpedal as the woman admitted that in fact she'd been mistaken and the other woman wasn't trans at all? I'm not sure it can be taken as given that this woman was correct in assuming the person who entered their room was transgender. Maybe that's what the hospital meant - they want to protect their female staff from the indignity of being accused of having penises when they're just trying to do their jobs.

The woman demanded something the hospital were simply not able to provide to her (a fully private with ensuite ICU bed, which the hospital simply doesn't have available). Her life was not at risk. She sounds paranoid, obsessed and insane.

what the fuck are you talking about. They offered her a private room. They refused to offer female only care.

As for what you sound like… well, I’ll spare MN mods the hassle.