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Woman raped in women’s refuge Canada

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Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 19/10/2022 07:14

A known rapist identified as a woman to access a shelter in Ontario and raped a woman.
It’s reported by reduxx but will probably not even be reported by the mainstream press there.
It just goes against everything that they were originally set up for, which was to keep women safe.

reduxx.info/male-sex-offender-identified-as-woman-to-access-womens-shelter-allegedly-raped-a-female-resident/

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nilsmousehammer · 19/10/2022 11:06

334bu · 19/10/2022 10:41

In Canada if you say you are a woman then the refuge can't legally exclude you. Not surprisingly when the law was changed their Inspector of Prisons admitted that over 60% of prisoners in male prisons now seeking transfer to women's prisons were sex offenders.

Quite.

There is no way to indulge and enable male humans in this desire without harming and disadvantaging females.

Even if all those males were perfectly behaved and respectful towards females, they still harm and disadvantage by their presence and biological reality alone.

What we're seeing now is even if the harm is the life-destroying trauma of being raped.... it is still much more important to indulge and enable male desires than to care about this.

And balance up the male supremacism of it - it is perfectly acceptable for females to be told no when they express a deeply held wish for provision, to feel afraid, to be retraumatised, to be excluded, to be physically damaged and injured...

but absolutely unthinkable to say no to a male.

Why is anyone still pretending at this point to believe that those males are in some way women? This is fantastically dimorphic sex based values.

MrsR87 · 19/10/2022 10:42

I have a newborn daughter and I truly worry about the world she is going to grow up in.

334bu · 19/10/2022 10:41

In Canada if you say you are a woman then the refuge can't legally exclude you. Not surprisingly when the law was changed their Inspector of Prisons admitted that over 60% of prisoners in male prisons now seeking transfer to women's prisons were sex offenders.

littlbrowndog · 19/10/2022 10:37

Thing tha5 gets me is that the workers said they were to afraid to say no to this man

that’s where Scotland will be. Everyone too afraid to say no to abusive men as they can just say they are women

will be a hate crime

lifeturnsonadime · 19/10/2022 10:27

thenightsky · 19/10/2022 10:19

But how did this rapist even get offered a place in a refuge anyway? You cannotjust rock up and say 'I'm a woman, let me in'. A dear friend of mine has been trying to escape her abusive marriage for years now and she's never managed to get a place when her DH blows up on her. The police get called, they take HER away to a relatives for the night, she sees her EDAN Lincs caseworker, who tells her there are no refuge spaces within 100 miles or more. So she ends up going back to the bastard again.

Who was this rapist saying he was running from? Who was he terrified of?

See this is the thing.

Once the big lie, TWAW, is believed then anything that person says must also be believed.

The truth is that service providers are probably shit scared of being hauled for discrimination for not providing the service to a TW that the same criteria are not applied.

You only need to look at the likes of Jessica Yaniv to see the lengths that some TW will go to to be refused a service and then to bring a discrimination claim.

Bad laws enable this. Blame the politicians that lobby for them without a care for their impact on women and children.

SammyScrounge · 19/10/2022 10:22

FrancescaContini · 19/10/2022 07:51

Enraging. They really don’t care about women in Canada, do they?

They don't care about women anywhere. They come second to ludicrous Self ID ideology.

HermioneKipper · 19/10/2022 10:21

And there we are. Exactly what we said would happen.

but it never happens right?

thenightsky · 19/10/2022 10:19

But how did this rapist even get offered a place in a refuge anyway? You cannotjust rock up and say 'I'm a woman, let me in'. A dear friend of mine has been trying to escape her abusive marriage for years now and she's never managed to get a place when her DH blows up on her. The police get called, they take HER away to a relatives for the night, she sees her EDAN Lincs caseworker, who tells her there are no refuge spaces within 100 miles or more. So she ends up going back to the bastard again.

Who was this rapist saying he was running from? Who was he terrified of?

Ofcourseshecan · 19/10/2022 10:18

Beowulfa · 19/10/2022 09:38

You haven't apologised for misgendering a poor oppressed rapist, you appalling bigot.

I was just about to point that out.

I still remember the first report I read of a tw in a Canadian women’s shelter who was (literally) dancing around waving tw’s penis — and the shelter worker explaining that ‘she’ was clearly disturbed and upset, as many other women are when they come to a refuge …..

lifeturnsonadime · 19/10/2022 10:13

MoltenLasagne · 19/10/2022 10:09

Surely the shelter could be held liable for enabling this? That poor woman, victim of entirely predictable outcome.

No the shelter is only following the law.

It is bad law.

It is the politicians that enacted the law who are responsible.

MoltenLasagne · 19/10/2022 10:09

Surely the shelter could be held liable for enabling this? That poor woman, victim of entirely predictable outcome.

DublinCrone · 19/10/2022 10:03

JellySaurus · 19/10/2022 07:52

But these things never happen. Look at the countries with self-ID, like Canada and RoI, how successful it is and it hasn't caused any problems.

AngrySad

The only reason this hasn't been a bigger issue in Ireland IMO is that two of the three transgender prioners (that we know of) who are housed in the women's prison, are confined to their cell most of the time. I don't know how sustainable that approach is in the longer term. One of these prisoners the notorious BK, the other possiby the person convicted of serious sexual assault of their stepson.
www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40352726.html

That poor woman in Canada. Her attack was entirely preventable.

JacquelinePot · 19/10/2022 10:02

Every time I think it can't get worse, it does.

This is absolutely obscene and every single politician who advocated for, supported, silently enabled the legislation that led to this should be utterly ashamed. I'd like to see criminal charges, and not just for the man who raped this woman in the place she should have been safest.

Please stop the world because I really want to get off.

applesandpears33 · 19/10/2022 10:00

Is there anyone on here from Canada? Is this story being discussed there? It'd be good to know if this story and the one about the person with the humungous fake breasts are helping to challenge the status quo.

Beowulfa · 19/10/2022 09:38

Faffertea · 19/10/2022 08:15

This is transphobic dog whistle reporting.
It didn’t really happen because this never happens.
And if it did happen the offender wasn’t really trans.
But men don’t pretend to be trans to access women so it didn’t happen.
And if it did happen they can call the Police so there’s no problem.
And anyway transwomen are subjected to so much more violence so don’t talk about VAW.
And the woman and the shelter and the newspaper and anyone who argues it’s wrong are linked to the far right and/or fundamental Christian groups in the USA.

Have I missed anything?

You haven't apologised for misgendering a poor oppressed rapist, you appalling bigot.

elgreco · 19/10/2022 09:36

No-one saw that coming....

RealFeminist · 19/10/2022 09:26

WE HUD MAGDALEN LAUNDRIES.

RealFeminist · 19/10/2022 09:23

NILS THOSE COMPLAINTS WERE ALL ACTUALLY TRANSPHOBIC HATE CRIMES

nilsmousehammer · 19/10/2022 09:23

Someone really needs to tell Nicola about the Magdalen Laundries idea. Scotland could stuff all their sinning women in a few and solve all their problems, plus get a whiter wash.

RealFeminist · 19/10/2022 09:22

LOOK, CANADAS MILES AWAY. SCOTLANDS DIFFERENT

THIS TRANSPHOBIC WUMAN WAS KICKED OUT THE RAPE CENTRE, MRIDUL SAYS WE'D JUST RE EDUCATE HER OOT OF HER BIGOTTEDNESS

reduxx.info/woman-evicted-from-domestic-violence-shelter-after-expressing-concerns-about-gender-self-id/

nilsmousehammer · 19/10/2022 09:21

RealFeminist · 19/10/2022 08:46

WE CAN HARDLY BAN MALES FAE SCOTLANDS RAPE CENTRES WHEN WE HAVE A MALE RUNNING ONE THOUGH

Particularly when that male lead insists that there are no complaints and no problems with this in any way, and it's a world of rainbows and happiness?

Except for in the article this week where the same person mentioned being distressed by hundreds of emails from people saying this was a really bad idea, and misgendering them about it. Which either did happen or didn't happen, depending on which interview you read. It's all rather confusing.

And when the same person explains the need for any female using the service they run to either bow to male centric compliance and the one true faith, or expect conversion therapy to be the price of aid and safety. But conversion therapy is Bad.

Or something.

SteveHarringtonsChestHair · 19/10/2022 09:20

Hopefully this person won't be sent to a female prison?

of course they will, because they’re a woman, you bigot! (Sarcastic)

nilsmousehammer · 19/10/2022 09:18

NormalNans · 19/10/2022 08:34

I think you’re missing the tone of this post, which seems to be taking the piss out of the typical lines trotted out at times like this

Not missing the tone at all but appreciating it - it's the narcissist's prayer.

Sadly the last line I suggested is the final typical line some activists will resort to when all other spurious nonsense is unpicked. I was rather grimly taking the piss out of that too. What else can you do with a line of thought deranged enough to believe that raped women are worth it for a male person's getting to live their best life?

TheKeatingFive · 19/10/2022 09:15

But everyone said this couldn't possibly happen.

They were lying. And everyone (including themselves) knew that

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 19/10/2022 09:10

Anyone with an ounce of sense could have seen this coming

which means the politicians who support this just don’t care about harm done to women. It’s low priority

looking at you, Sturgeon

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