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Katie Dolatowski up in court again

136 replies

ImperioMarch · 18/10/2022 21:54

Tried to access Women's Aid then failed to register with the police as per the rules for sex offenders

www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/courts/3794587/dolatowski-move-fife-breach/

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ArabellaScott · 05/11/2022 13:25

It's not a fucking tragedy if it was predictable and preventable; it's negligence and stupidity.

100%, and we have politicians on record telling us that this never happens, is in fact impossible.

Women and girls have been traumatised by Dolatowski as a direct result of the erosion of boundaries caused by genderism, and the pretence that males are able to become females and identify out of male behaviours.

ArabellaScott · 05/11/2022 13:22

Mail article:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11392601/Transgender-paedophile-caught-duping-staff-71-day-stay-domestic-violence-refuge.html

I suppose no point asking if the Guardian are covering it.

FOJN · 05/11/2022 12:54

I listen to a lot of true crime podcasts and the pattern of behaviour and punishment for child sex predators is devastatingly predictable. They're never taken seriously when they are young and their offences are viewed as "minor", the court always believes their history of a difficult childhood is relevant to their actions and that they can be rehabilitated. Sadly there are far too many dead children and traumatised survivors for me to understand why the courts give these predators the benefit of the doubt.

We should not show leniency to predators who have been abused as minors themselves, not because they are responsible and need to be punished for their own trauma but because by the time that trauma has manifested in harming others we have set the stage for a vicious cycle that never ends. We need to ensure that however the courts deal with these offenders one of the most important things we do is to make sure they are prevented from accessing children by whatever restrictions necessary.

I'm sick of hearing about tragedy. It's not a fucking tragedy if it was predictable and preventable; it's negligence and stupidity.

crumpet · 05/11/2022 11:56

stealtheatingtunnocks · 18/10/2022 23:35

I was told that when the women complained they were told it was ok because KD only offended against children. So that is sensible, isn’t it?

I think children were housed there too weren’t they?

mrshoho · 05/11/2022 11:42

MichelleScarn · 05/11/2022 11:31

If Katie says Katie is trans ergo Katie is trans? Does SNP not state acceptance without debate?

Yes anyone daring to question is a bigot and threatened with arrest.

What a fucking mess.

BedTaker · 05/11/2022 11:41

Away from the cutsie photoshopped avatar, in real life its bloody obvious this person is male.

Yes, there is another photo of him doing the rounds now, and it is now clear that the heavily photoshopped photo that is mostly used for this man is incredibly misleading.

ArabellaScott · 05/11/2022 11:36

in real life its bloody obvious this person is male

Yes.

MichelleScarn · 05/11/2022 11:31

If Katie says Katie is trans ergo Katie is trans? Does SNP not state acceptance without debate?

Chersfrozenface · 05/11/2022 11:29

If they can be manipulated in this way their safeguarding systems and / or safeguarding systems in general are not fit for purpose.

And what exactly does "authenticated identification" mean?

PronounssheRa · 05/11/2022 11:29

ArabellaScott · 05/11/2022 11:21

', chief executive of Leeds Women’s Aid, said of the breach: “We are appalled that someone with such crimes could come to a women’s refuge using a different identity.

“We are aware a criminal using authenticated identification could access any housing provider’s services and we are not unique in being manipulated in this way.”'

I hate to criticise women's aid, but fucking hell, they weren't duped or manipulated, they choose not to use the exemptions provided by the EA. They choose to allow males who identify as women to access their services. Away from the cutsie photoshopped avatar, in real life its bloody obvious this person is male.

ArabellaScott · 05/11/2022 11:22

So, is Katie not really a transwoman? Because the Scottish government have assured us that this never happens. Transwomen never assault women or children, they said.

ArabellaScott · 05/11/2022 11:21

', chief executive of Leeds Women’s Aid, said of the breach: “We are appalled that someone with such crimes could come to a women’s refuge using a different identity.

“We are aware a criminal using authenticated identification could access any housing provider’s services and we are not unique in being manipulated in this way.”'

ArabellaScott · 05/11/2022 11:17

ImperioMarch · 05/11/2022 08:52

So far from being turned away by Women's Aid in Leeds, Dolatowski was housed by them - alongside women and children - for two and a half months!

Fucking hell. That never happens.

lifeinthelastlane · 05/11/2022 11:05

I see the article says there was a separate section of the refuge for trans people (I wonder to what extent that overlapped with the women and children) so it would be hiding the crimes that was the issue to them not being a man.

ImperioMarch · 05/11/2022 08:53

Whoops. Forgot to add link www.thesun.co.uk/news/20328727/transgender-paedophile-duped-staff-domestic-violence-refuge/

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ImperioMarch · 05/11/2022 08:52

So far from being turned away by Women's Aid in Leeds, Dolatowski was housed by them - alongside women and children - for two and a half months!

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stealtheatingtunnocks · 30/10/2022 10:34

Where would katy be now? Living in a place found by the police? In another refuge?

DdraigGoch · 29/10/2022 10:35

GothMilk · 29/10/2022 07:34

Why on earth is this creature not in jail? if not for the crimes alone but for the repeated breaches of their licence conditions?

Presumably because the judges are smart enough to know he'd be put in a women's prison and they want to avoid it.

Trans is a literal get out of jail free card here.

I doubt that was the judge's reasoning, and if it was it was stupid because he was placed in a women's refuge instead.

NitroNine · 29/10/2022 10:31

Reduxx article mentioned by PP.

This offender is clearly VERY dangerous (just look at the escalation pattern) & they do not consider the rule of law applies to them. Had they not been caught out, it seems unlikely they would have informed the police of their change of address - their change of address to a home surrounded by children.

ArabellaScott · 29/10/2022 09:15

We are so told that the numbers are so small that it doesn't matter.

Odd argument. Imagine someone suggesting Harold Shipman was such an outlier there was no need to reconsider safeguarding.

One predator.

How many victims?

ArabellaScott · 29/10/2022 09:12

We are told repeatedly that transwomen are not the problem. That transwomen are not a threat.

We are told we are bigots for suggesting it.

This person was raised in the GRR debate. The Scottish parliament's response was that they thought the story had been invented.

mrshoho · 29/10/2022 08:24

It is infuriating on so many levels. A violent sexual crime was committed against a young girl in a place that should have been a safe single sex space. The male perpetrator received no jail term and was instead placed in a women's refuge. Tell me how any reasonable person can read this and not see that it is wrong. Is this paedophile still permitted to use women's toilets? And we are told by the likes of Nicola Sturgeon that we are bigots for being concerned about self id etc. I feel like I'm banging my head against a brick wall.

GothMilk · 29/10/2022 07:34

Why on earth is this creature not in jail? if not for the crimes alone but for the repeated breaches of their licence conditions?

Presumably because the judges are smart enough to know he'd be put in a women's prison and they want to avoid it.

Trans is a literal get out of jail free card here.

user1471447863 · 28/10/2022 17:04

Why on earth is this creature not in jail? if not for the crimes alone but for the repeated breaches of their licence conditions? Sadly up here thanks the Niploeon and her perverts party and the demands from the weirdo Greens you are more likely to get jailed for misgendering or 'dead naming' them than they are.

Dolatowski entered the women’s bathroom at the local Morrisons and grabbed a 10-year-old girl by the face, pushing her in to a toilet cubicle and demanding she remove her trousers. Dolatowski also threatened to murder the girl’s mother in an effort to keep her quiet, but the child bravely punched the predator in self-defense, and ran to get her father who was just outside of the washroom.

As a dad of daughters, eldest slightly younger than this but been starting to let her go to the ladies while I wait outside in seemingly 'safe' places this sort of incident terrifies me. I can only imagine this predator didn't leave that supermarket in an ambulance was because the dad, being there on his own, was occupied comforting his daughter.

ScrollingLeaves · 24/10/2022 08:47

stealtheatingtunnocks · 18/10/2022 23:26
I don’t doubt that KD has a difficult background. It does though, seem clear that this person repeatedly seeks to do harm to women and girls. I’m not sure why KD’s background or gender issues are relevant to the risk KD presents to wome and girls

Isn’t the background and ‘gender issue’ relevant to the risk of causing harm to women and girls because this person is in fact a male* and therefore more likely to commit sexual crimes than if they were a female.

But as they say they are a female, they have been frequenting female only spaces instead of being thrown out of them, and, appearing as a female in this way, they have launched sexual assaults on vulnerable children.

It is also highly relevant to us all in our society that in this report we have all been lied to and thar appears to be a legal position.

*(80% of such crimes committed by males)

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